Basic Grammar for GT, Courtesy of Mel and GCC

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LittleLambofJesus said:

I like color myself

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Fireinfolding said:

You told me you didnt Lamb

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Even I use color in a lot of my scripture posts

Melethiel said:

<snip>1. your and you're
your = possessive. I have your book.
you're = you are.
Correct: You're a nice person.
WRONG: Your not listening.

2. there, their, and they're
there = location. My book is over there
their = possessive. I have their book
they're = they are. They're right here = They are right here.
Correct: They're over there.
WRONG: There over there.
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And go easy on the bold, italics, and underlining. If there is more of those in your post than plain text, I won't read it either. Go easy on my poor eyes.

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I think your (2nd person plural) post contradicts itself here. Italics, bold and underlining are all acceptable in commercial literature, it should not be verbotten in CF then.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/8HDvdTXfut0 Here's a toast to GCC and Mele! To long life and happiness! It is an old romantic song from the mid 70's, nostalgic about the famous love of Bogart and Bacall. Please pardon my self-indulgence, but I think it is the archetype of love between someone a little bit older and a little bit younger.

SummaScriptura said:

I think your (2nd person plural) post contradicts itself here. Italics, bold and underlining are all acceptable in commercial literature, it should not be verbotten in CF then.

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from another site i am part of. i think there attitued is correct.

"there are 2 types of english on this forum, good english and bad english. get over it."

be afraid of the Grammer police

I tink your being a bit senetive, dont cha think?

Very helpful, thanks.

icedragon101 said:

be afraid of the Grammer police

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Who ya gonna call....Grammar Busters!

As long as I can understand the gist of what one is trying to say, I'm good. Grammar is not my strongest point, so I pray that one forgives me and overlook my grammatical flaws.

daydreamergurl15 said:

As long as I can understand the gist of what one is trying to say, I'm good. Grammar is not my strongest point, so I pray that one forgives me and overlook my grammatical flaws.

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You to? I mean...you too? I have the same problem. But i'm trying to be more correct with my grammar.

oh these was bumped the thread is helpful resource and helping but not for a the people in the thread?

The apostles were simple fisherman, they were not educated men. We're in good company. But a little grammar lesson is good and i'm grateful. Paul however was highly educated, but he sure seems to confuse a lot of people with his education.

Dark_Lite said:

oh these was bumped the thread is helpful resource and helping but not for a the people in the thread?

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Yes. You got right.

Dark_Lite said:

oh these was bumped the thread is helpful resource and helping but not for a the people in the thread?

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Very good D-L.....by jove I dink ya almos got it

o thees waz bumpd tha thred iz helpful resors and helpeen but knot for a tha peepal in tha thred

Hai gaiz, I herd that this thred iz all aboot gud speling. I can has be gramaer poleese?pahleez? :3

Amber the Duskbringer said:

Hai gaiz, I herd that this thred iz all aboot gud speling. I can has be gramaer poleese?pahleez? :3

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u gotz it

LittleLambofJesus said:

u gotz it

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Missed you and your sarcasm.

11822 said:

The apostles were simple fisherman, they were not educated men. We're in good company. But a little grammar lesson is good and i'm grateful. Paul however was highly educated, but he sure seems to confuse a lot of people with his education.

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The Scriptures written by the apostles, however, don't show particularly poor grammar, and in many cases is of the highest quality. Even simpler grammatical forms such as one finds in John is of a lower register, not a lower quality.

Moreover, Paul didn't confuse anyone due to his proper use of language. He was confusing because of the subtlety and nuance of the concepts in which he was working.

That's my take, anyway.

I don't mean to suggest that everyone needs to speak (or type) in a high register. Formal word word order devoid of colloquialisms and common idioms can be tiresome and even pedantic, especially in a discussion. Good grammar doesn't mean formality; it means making language clear through the use of proper punctuation. Now of course, there are debates over what constitutes clarity (for instance, whether to use the Oxford comma), but these debates are between people who understand that grammar is there to clarify, not to confuse.

An example using the Oxford comma:

If you leave out the Oxford comma (a comma that precedes "and" prior to the final item in a series) you can create serious ambiguities. Thus, "My usual breakfast is coffee, bacon and eggs and toast," can mean either "My usual breakfast is coffee, [the mix of] bacon and eggs, with toast" or "My usual breakfast is coffee, bacon, and eggs on toast." By putting a comma before the last item in the series (whether "eggs and toast" or just "toast") you remove ambiguity which can confuse your readers. It's not necessarily formal; it isn't ostentatious; it just helps clarify one's meaning.

Another example, this time using words:

"To lie" in the sense of "lie down to sleep" means that you, the actor, have performed the action of lying down to sleep [the verb is intransitive]. "To lay" in the sense of "lay down to sleep" means that some other actor has put you into bed [that is, the verb is transitive]. This is simple enough, but it gets confusing before the English language has evolved in such a way that both words change in overlapping ways depending on the time referent. The past tense of the present verb "lie" is "lay," and the past tense of the present verb "lay" is "laid." If you don't know this rule and you're writing about, say, Jesus in the tomb, you can see how you might paint a confusing picture of who is doing what and when without properly expressing yourself.

Anyway, that's why we created this thread. There are already enough problems with people understanding each other, whether in politics or, especially, on this forum. No need to let deficiencies in actual communication get in the way of healthy debates.