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Base your vote on RESULTS!

Base your vote in 2010 and after on RESULTS not party loyalty.

I have read a lot of posts on this forum and a lot boil down to people trying to defend to put down the other party. FORGET party loyalty, the parties of Republican and Democrat are not loyal to you. They are mostly loyal to their power, prestige, and payola (Money).

Don’t vote for a Republican on issues such as the economy just because they are mostly against homosexuals. The economy is much more important than the homosexual issue. Don’t vote for a Democrat just because you or your family benefit from one of their social programs. We are in a very serious financial situation right now and RESULTS in the economy should be the determining factor.

Get the facts on the history of the candidate then make your decision on those facts and not party affiliation. The Republicans and Democrats know how to exploit your emotional buttons very well. They have endless resources to manipulate you. However, it is very hard to manipulate the public now with the Internet and the freedom of information act. GET THE FACTS!

I fell into the emotional button trap in the past. I voted for Jimmy Carter because he was a Democrat and my parents love FDR actions to help the poor. I still think that Carter is a good man but he did not help the poor because we had 10% + interest rates in the 1970s. I voted for George Bush Jr. in 2004 because he said that Jesus Christ was his hero and changed his life. He also said that he was going to fund the faith based initiative. He did not fund that initiative because all the money went to the wars. During Bush’s 8 years the economic cancer continued to get worse and finally burst in 2008. I still think that Bush is a person who has Jesus Christ as his hero but Bush like Carter was a failure as a president and we pay the price.

If you allow the politicians to manipulate you with their emotional buttons then you will be part of the problem and not part of the solution.

BASE YOUR VOTE ON RESULTS, NOTHING ELSE!

Why should the politicians get a privilege over you? If you do not produce in your position you will be fired, demoted or replaced! The politicians that are our employees should have the same standard.
 
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Something has to change, and quick. We are still a republic. Washington governs at our behest, not theirs. Washington is beholden to us, not the other way around.

Yet we've allowed Washington to wrest incrementally more and more power and control from us to the point they feel powerful enough now to start taking it in giant chunks - right from under our noses, while looking down on us past theirs.

2010 is arguably the most important election in American history. It will decide whether we want to remain a republic or whether we cede absolute control of this nation to Washington.
 
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2012 IMO will be far more important than 2010 will be, pardon the pun. These next two elections, however, could determine the direction America is willing to go for the next generation. I do warn you all though, it is like a fork in the road. Take the wrong turn, and it will be a lot harder to turn back and take the other fork.

And in a road where I see two paths in a road, I usually tend to take the path in between, and climb the rocks and trees. That way I can see where each path leads.
 
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I have vorted for McCain in several of the last elections in Arizona. McCain is a red, white, and blue war hero. After I checked up on him in the 2008 election I found the following:
In 1987, McCain was one of the five senators whom Keating contacted in order to prevent the government's seizure of Lincoln, and McCain met twice with federal regulators to discuss the government's investigation of Lincoln. [In 1999, McCain said: "The appearance of it was wrong. It's a wrong appearance when a group of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators, because it conveys the impression of undue and improper influence. And it was the wrong thing to do."[

McCain attacked what he saw as the corrupting influence of large political contributions – from corporations, labor unions, other organizations, and wealthy individuals – and he made this his signature issue. Starting in 1994, he worked with Democratic Wisconsin Senator Russ Feingold on campaign finance reform; their McCain-Feingold bill attempted to put limits on "soft money"

In the 1996 presidential election, McCain was again on the short list of possible vice-presidential picks, this time for Republican nominee Bob Dole. The following year, Time magazine named McCain as one of the "25 Most Influential People in America".[

1997, McCain became chairman of the powerful Senate Commerce Committee; he was criticized for accepting funds from corporations and businesses under the committee's purview, but in response said the small contributions he received were not part of the big-money nature of the campaign finance problem

In 1999, McCain voted for the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which passed in the Senate by a vote of 54-44. The deregulation bill loosened restrictions on the activities of banks, brokerage houses, and insurance companies

McCain campaigned against Proposition 200, a 2004 Arizona state initiative intended to prevent illegal immigrants from voting, receiving welfare benefits, and mandated state agencies to report illegals to the federal government

By August 2004, McCain had the best favorable-to-unfavorable rating (55 percent to 19 percent) of any national politician

On January 24, 2007 he voted Yes on legislation that would allow employers to pay less than the federal minimum wage if the state set a lower minimum He also voted in favor of maintaining the filibuster against a bill to increase the federal minimum wage from $5.15 an hour to $7.25.] This would effectively repeal the federal minimum wage. McCain has voted 19 times against raising the minimum wage.

On August 2, 2007, he voted against a bi-partisan bill to provide greater transparency in the legislative process and to regulate lobbyists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_John_McCain

McCain has a position on deregulation, welfare in Arizona for illegals, and minimum wage that are the exact opposite of my position. Another bill that McCain voted on that I di not like was he voted no on taxing big corporations on their outsoursing activities.

McCain is a true war hero and can make good speeches but his political actions are completely opposite of mine. I will now take into consideration the facts and not my perception based on little political action information.

 
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Yeah...forget party politics.

Why?

Because Democrats have failed miserably. Better to talk about Bush. Better to pretend the $165 billion deficit the last Republican congress ran (fiscal year 2007) is no different than Obama, Pelosi and Reid running deficits nearly ten times that. Better to ignore the $800 billion pay-off to democrat supporters in government unions disguised as a "Stimulus Bill" which Obama claimed would keep unemployment under 8% (it sure kept government unemployment under 8%...they've added 400,000 jobs to their base with that taxpayer money). Better to ignore Obama doing little to mitigate the BP disaster and talk about how Bush was no different.

Better to ignore the fact Obama and Democrats rammed through a "health care" bill behind closed doors that puts everyone's medical records in a Federal database and puts the IRS, among others, in charge of it.

Better to ignore the fact Obama's plan for Afghanistan, a plan he dithered on for months, failed the day he announced it because he put a time-table on American withdrawal on the plan. Better to ignore the fact Afghan politicians immediately started negotiating with who would be there when we left and ignore the pallets of cash that are leaving the airport in Kabul.

Democrats are desparate. Everything is failing and now we are about to get slammed by the largest tax increase in American history when the tax cuts enacted under REPUBLICANS go away.

Red bold type won't help them. Nothing will help them. Their ideology fails everytime it is tried. This time they had a crushing majority in both houses and the oval office and couldn't pull it off.

So pretend people are idiots. Pretend they do not see what is obvious. Lecture them, again, on how stupid they are. In big bold red type.
 
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Yeah...forget party politics.

Why?

Because Democrats have failed miserably. Better to talk about Bush. Better to pretend the $165 billion deficit the last Republican congress ran (fiscal year 2007) is no different than Obama, Pelosi and Reid running deficits nearly ten times that. Better to ignore the $800 billion pay-off to democrat supporters in government unions disguised as a "Stimulus Bill" which Obama claimed would keep unemployment under 8% (it sure kept government unemployment under 8%...they've added 400,000 jobs to their base with that taxpayer money). Better to ignore Obama doing little to mitigate the BP disaster and talk about how Bush was no different.

Better to ignore the fact Obama and Democrats rammed through a "health care" bill behind closed doors that puts everyone's medical records in a Federal database and puts the IRS, among others, in charge of it.

Better to ignore the fact Obama's plan for Afghanistan, a plan he dithered on for months, failed the day he announced it because he put a time-table on American withdrawal on the plan. Better to ignore the fact Afghan politicians immediately started negotiating with who would be there when we left and ignore the pallets of cash that are leaving the airport in Kabul.

Democrats are desparate. Everything is failing and now we are about to get slammed by the largest tax increase in American history when the tax cuts enacted under REPUBLICANS go away.

Red bold type won't help them. Nothing will help them. Their ideology fails everytime it is tried. This time they had a crushing majority in both houses and the oval office and couldn't pull it off.

So pretend people are idiots. Pretend they do not see what is obvious. Lecture them, again, on how stupid they are. In big bold red type.

Do you happen to work for the Republican Party, because at every opportunity, you lay blame solely at the feet of the Democrats, as though they are the only party responsible, the only party with interests, an ideology, and bumblingly bad policies. Has your partisanship blinded you so completely that you cannot see two feet past it?
 
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I do base my vote on results. Which is why I do vote against every republican and democrat. They produce no positive results. I wish I could be partisan and say I am for this faction or that faction, but I can. I will leave that up to those who refuse to check their biased ideology at the door.
 
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I have vorted for McCain in several of the last elections in Arizona. McCain is a red, white, and blue war hero. After I checked up on him in the 2008 election I found the following.

In military reality, McCain never was a red, white and blue war hero. He crashed many aircraft and was consdered a poor pilot. He received special attention and privileges as a prisoner of war. His fellow captives knew this and during McCains presidential campaign it was publicly presented. He was a favored son because of his fathers status in the Navy. A true hero saves the lives of others. He saved noone but himself.

Voting for a candidate based on military service is often used in campaigns to create the impression that the candidate is a super-patriot. The war remembrance and war veterans groups who endorse a candidate are meaningless in this 21st Century. Any candidate needs to be competent in a variety of disciplines to manage at the city, state, and federal level. Being a military veteran should actually be one of the least important factors in choosing a candidate.
 
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Yeah...forget party politics.

Why?

Because Democrats have failed miserably. Better to talk about Bush. Better to pretend the $165 billion deficit the last Republican congress ran (fiscal year 2007) is no different than Obama, Pelosi and Reid running deficits nearly ten times that. Better to ignore the $800 billion pay-off to democrat supporters in government unions disguised as a "Stimulus Bill" which Obama claimed would keep unemployment under 8% (it sure kept government unemployment under 8%...they've added 400,000 jobs to their base with that taxpayer money). Better to ignore Obama doing little to mitigate the BP disaster and talk about how Bush was no different.

Better to ignore the fact Obama and Democrats rammed through a "health care" bill behind closed doors that puts everyone's medical records in a Federal database and puts the IRS, among others, in charge of it.

Better to ignore the fact Obama's plan for Afghanistan, a plan he dithered on for months, failed the day he announced it because he put a time-table on American withdrawal on the plan. Better to ignore the fact Afghan politicians immediately started negotiating with who would be there when we left and ignore the pallets of cash that are leaving the airport in Kabul.

Democrats are desparate. Everything is failing and now we are about to get slammed by the largest tax increase in American history when the tax cuts enacted under REPUBLICANS go away.

Red bold type won't help them. Nothing will help them. Their ideology fails everytime it is tried. This time they had a crushing majority in both houses and the oval office and couldn't pull it off.

So pretend people are idiots. Pretend they do not see what is obvious. Lecture them, again, on how stupid they are. In big bold red type.

Voeg you seem to forget that for 20 out of the past 30 years there was a Republican in the White House. Not to mention that those Republican Presidents added more to the debt than any democrat did.

Or the fact that the Republicans had control of government for 6 years and managed to turn a surplus into massive deficits, managed to grow government to record levels, managed to squeeze the middle and lower classes while lining the pockets of the rich, managed to lay the foundation for lack of regulations, and so forth.

The Republicans have shown that they are not the party of small government or fiscal responsibility. They have shown themselves to be the party of the rich elite and are slaves to their corporate masters all the while screwing over the little guy - AKA the majority of America.

Are the Democrats perfect? Heck no, but your incessant blaming of the Democrats for all of our ills is getting tired and old. Not to mention that blame has no basis in reality.

Oh, and also, its very hypocritical of you to call others out "for blaming Republicans" when 95% of your posts are blaming Democrats or pulling the "Dems do it too!" card. Allow me to introduce you to the pot and kettle...
 
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Legislators | TheMiddleClass.org

This site might help people learn who is really helping them. It's interesting to note which party is doing more for the working class....

When I look at the other issues that "The Middle Class.org" supports and does not support, I wonder just how middle class they really are. Are they speaking strictly from an economic perspective? Well, no, I can't really say they are doing that. I see no basis from which they derive their opinions. They seem to support the so called "death tax" which, to me anyway, is an idiotic tax. I'm considered by some to be "middle class", but these guys surely don't speak for me.

As the OP says, look into these politicians yourself. Don't rely on organizations, foundations, political ads, publications, etc. Investigate these folks yourself. Look at their voting records. If you cannot devote the time to look at all candidates, study those who are representing your area, district, state or city. There are so many organizations out there with their own agendas. We can't rely on "others" to do the work for us. We have to do it ourselves. All sides seem to want to confuse, or muddy the waters. Don't let them do it. The information is out there on voting records. The speeches made by these politicians are available. Their associations are public record. Look into it and don't be lazy about it. It is our duty as American citizens to become informed and make the choices that are best for our nation and our communities. No matter what party the candidates represent.
 
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I will base my vote on results. Which is why I will vote against Obama and every other Democrat on the ticket.

Republicans aren't getting any better results.

Best bet: vote out every incumbent.

Enough of congressmen serving for life while just serving themselves.
 
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This site might help people learn who is really helping them. It's interesting to note which party is doing more for the working class....
The Drum Major Institute for Public Policy is a non-partisan, non-profit think tank generating the ideas that fuel the progressive movement.
Well golly! What a surprise that a "progressive" organization, that seems to be attached at the hip with Huffington Post, would find that "progressive" democrats do much more for the working class than conservative republicans.
 
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Republicans aren't getting any better results.

Best bet: vote out every incumbent.

Enough of congressmen serving for life while just serving themselves.

I'd be for this if it didn't seem likely that more often than not the incumbent would be replaced with a crazy person.
 
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I'ld rather have a few crazies with good intentions than some very effective corrupt career politicians.

I'm not sure. Corrupt career politicians at least have a vested interest in keeping the system afloat. Well-meaning crazies seem likely to bring the whole thing crashing down on principle alone.
 
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