Baptismal Degree

[rocknanchor]

How is there to this day justification for grading the baptism as was told by Christ? This is one area many protestant members avoid taking place between long intervals.

“Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in
the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, ,

, , Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you.”

(Matthew 28:19, 20)​

Should there be certainty or hesitance over water-baptism? I feel Baptism itself is neither necessary nor it will forbid passage, but when convenience becomes plenty, by stalling Christ’s declaration of ‘baptizing’ the score till He come again ushers in an entirely different example for the flock, the aberrance of the declaration no matter how many times a Church service using Matthew’s notation is cited. In some churches it is treated as though sub-conscientiously tolerated. People of God, this shouldn’t be!

A fearful jailer wailed,

“Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”

They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” And they spoke the word of the Lord to him together with all who were in his house. And he took them that very hour of the night and washed their wounds, and immediately he was baptized, he and all his household."

(Acts 16:30-33)​

Thoughts and insights welcome, Thanks!

 

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How is there to this day justification for grading the baptism as was told by Christ? This is one area many protestant members avoid taking place between long intervals.

“Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in
the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, ,

, , Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you.”

(Matthew 28:19, 20)​

Should there be certainty or hesitance over water-baptism? I feel Baptism itself is neither necessary nor it will forbid passage, but when convenience becomes plenty, by stalling Christ’s declaration of ‘baptizing’ the score till He come again ushers in an entirely different example for the flock, the aberrance of the declaration no matter how many times a Church service using Matthew’s notation is cited. In some churches it is treated as though sub-conscientiously tolerated. People of God, this shouldn’t be!

A fearful jailer wailed,

“Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”

They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” And they spoke the word of the Lord to him together with all who were in his house. And he took them that very hour of the night and washed their wounds, and immediately he was baptized, he and all his household."

(Acts 16:30-33)​

Thoughts and insights welcome, Thanks!

I too don't believe water baptism is a requirement for salvation. ...saying that I believe all believers should be baptized.

Two more thoughts and insight...the second part of the verse doesn't mention baptism.
And....some translations don't have that verse for some reason.

 

[quietbloke]

Peter said ,'Repent' (Turn from your sin asking God for forgiveness. Be sorry for your sin and turn to God) 'Be baptised' Baptism in water,full immersion Be filled with the Spirit'. Salvation comes through repentence. Baptism in water follows and Baptism in the Holy Spirit follows salvation.

 

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Peter said ,'Repent' (Turn from your sin asking God for forgiveness. Be sorry for your sin and turn to God) 'Be baptised' Baptism in water,full immersion Be filled with the Spirit'. Salvation comes through repentence. Baptism in water follows and Baptism in the Holy Spirit follows salvation.

Just curious....how much repentance?

 

[Anthony2019]

I would say that being baptised is essential for Christians.

Jesus said that we enter the kingdom of God "through water and the Spirit" (John 3:5).

"Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ" (1 Peter 3:21)

"Repent and be baptised every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit" (Acts 2:38)

Baptism is:-
- participation in Christ’s death and resurrection (Romans 6:3–5; Colossians 2:12)
- a washing away of sin (1 Corinthians 6:11).
- an enlightenment by Christ (Ephesians 5:14)
- a reclothing in Christ (Galatians 3:27)
- a renewal by the Spirit (Titus 3:5);
- the experience of salvation from the flood (1 Peter 3:20–21);
- an exodus from bondage (1 Corinthians 10:1–2)
- we become part of the Body of Christ, his Church, where there are no divisions between us (Galatians 3:27-28; 1 Corinthians 12:13)

 

[Maria Billingsley]

How is there to this day justification for grading the baptism as was told by Christ? This is one area many protestant members avoid taking place between long intervals.

“Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in
the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, ,

, , Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you.”

(Matthew 28:19, 20)​

Should there be certainty or hesitance over water-baptism? I feel Baptism itself is neither necessary nor it will forbid passage, but when convenience becomes plenty, by stalling Christ’s declaration of ‘baptizing’ the score till He come again ushers in an entirely different example for the flock, the aberrance of the declaration no matter how many times a Church service using Matthew’s notation is cited. In some churches it is treated as though sub-conscientiously tolerated. People of God, this shouldn’t be!

A fearful jailer wailed,

“Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”

They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” And they spoke the word of the Lord to him together with all who were in his house. And he took them that very hour of the night and washed their wounds, and immediately he was baptized, he and all his household."

(Acts 16:30-33)​

Thoughts and insights welcome, Thanks!

As we know, there are two baptisms (immersion). One is by water, John the Baptist and the other is
by the Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Now some denominations hold true to both while some hold to just one or the other. In order to have confidence in both, we should go back to the Hebrew understanding of ritual washing after all, only the Jewish people were participating at that time.


I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, whose sandals I am not worthy to carry. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.
John the Baptist

Baptism, as defined by the Jewish encyclopedia "A religious ablution signifying purification or consecration.Accordingly, Baptism is not merely for the purpose of expiating a special transgression, but it is to form a part of holy living and to prepare for the attainment of a closer communion with God. " So according to this, the baptismal act is identified more with preparedness. I believe in the case of regenerated Christians, water baptism is simply the outwardly proclamation of their repentance after they have received the Holy Spirit.

 

[rocknanchor]

Concerning the necessity of WB,

", , when convenience becomes plenty, by stalling Christ’s declaration of ‘baptizing’ the score till He come again ushers in an entirely different example for the flock, the aberrance of the declaration, ,"

Maybe I should have rephrased that.

As convenience mounts, refusal becomes disobedient.