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Australia is a Christian Nation

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But isn't it ironic then that Christ never again spoke of political issues? He put the entire issue to rest with this one incident.

The Kingdom of God is inherently political, though perhaps not in a way that would be immediately understandable in a modern liberal democracy that takes many of the values taught by Jesus for granted.


Yet on other occasions he did do things that were politically controversial, inasmuch as they involved challenging power structures in his society.
 
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Yet on other occasions he did do things that were politically controversial, inasmuch as they involved challenging power structures in his society.
Please provide examples. I'm not aware of exactly what you are referencing.
 
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Please provide examples. I'm not aware of exactly what you are referencing.

Overturning tables in the temple? He's threatening the business interests of the merchants and the power and prestige of the priestly class.
 
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Christians in Australia.
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96.1 % in the 1901 census.
43.9 % in the 2021 census.
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Wikipedia has an informative article on..
'Christianity in Australia'.
That’s unfortunate, but not surprising
 
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No nation I can think of is a Christian nation, are the majority saved? Do the majority have church membership, read the Bible everyday, etc? If not, then they are not a Christian nation.
Croatia? Poland? Malta? Vatican City? They might be the most religious Christians. Greece unfortunately bowed down to the LGBT agenda.
 
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Croatia? Poland? Malta? Vatican City? They might be the most religious Christians. Greece unfortunately bowed down to the LGBT agenda.
Honestly I don't think any of them are, just empty religion and secularisation.
 
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Overturning tables in the temple? He's threatening the business interests of the merchants and the power and prestige of the priestly class.

I do think Western Christianity outside the USA has gone a little soft in recent years. We forget that we made Christian nations by force in many areas of the world:

Charlemagne in East Europe
Roman Constantine to Theodosius/Justinian around the Med
The Spanish in Latin America and indeed in Iberia against the Muslims
The Austrians against the Ottomans
The Russians across Asia
The British across their empire and in establishing the USA, Australia, Canada, New Zealand as Christian nations.

People are converted by love and the grace and mercy of God. But the kinds of people who get in the way of that conversion have historically been eliminated or moved out of the way by force. It is naive to pretend that there are not coordinated efforts to eliminate Christians around the world, and the best way to counter these is often by force. Also, there is a massive quantitative difference between the church of the East and West precisely because the Eastern church never really had the protection of the state and was periodically massacred by various diverse forms of evil, - Islam, Communism, Pagan, etc.

The ideal is the rule of the King of Kings. In a fallen world, Freedom of religion is probably the best we can hope for, but failing that, flawed Christian theocracies are the next best option
 
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I think you misunderstand. I am not advocating for anything of the sort. I am opposed to Christian nationalism.

Compelling people to accept the Gospel using violence or coercion is unjustifiable, and I am opposed to it.

Nevertheless, the Bible does give examples of Jesus taking stands on issues that are political, in the sense of opposing oppressive power structures in society.
 
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You cannot compel someone to accept the gospel, but you can clear away those who will kill them for that decision. When Jesus comes back, He is going to wipe them out anyway. The whole history of the Kings of Judah is a case in point.
 
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You cannot compel someone to accept the gospel, but you can clear away those who will kill them for that decision. When Jesus comes back, He is going to wipe them out anyway.

Is he? I don't understand the biblical message as suggesting that. That sounds more like what some American Fundamentalist believe, in a literalistic sense, but I don't think its consistent with the best interpretation of biblical prophecy.
 
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Is he? I don't understand the biblical message as suggesting that. That sounds more like what some American Fundamentalist believe, in a literalistic sense, but I don't think its consistent with the best interpretation of biblical prophecy.

Judgment Day. Lake of Fire, it's all there in Revelation. The church has always believed that the wicked would meet their doom at Christ's return.
 
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Judgment Day. Lake of Fire, it's all there in Revelation. The church has always believed that the wicked would meet their doom at Christ's return.

I don't take any of that imagery literally.
 
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Croatia? Poland? Malta? Vatican City? They might be the most religious Christians. Greece unfortunately bowed down to the LGBT agenda.
Malta is very religious, the people at mass seem deeply involved. St. Paul was shipwrecked there ( St. Pauls' Bay) and they have very much kept their Catholic faith.
 
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Malta is very religious, the people at mass seem deeply involved. St. Paul was shipwrecked there ( St. Pauls' Bay) and they have very much kept their Catholic faith.
Glory to God!
 
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