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<blockquote data-quote="stevevw" data-source="post: 75157451" data-attributes="member: 342064"><p>First just because something is widely shared doesn't make it the truth where a person can force it on others. Second who says that because the moral value is widely shared that this makes it a subjective moral view. It may well be that because it is widely shared that this is an objective moral truth that people intuitively know and are mistakenly calling a subjective view. </p><p> So how do people get this internalized moral truth that becomes etched into their conscience. As far as I know, subjective moral values are something that is personal so this can be the result of upbringing, personal experiences, socialization, enculturation. </p><p></p><p>It seems like a mighty big coincident that all these different individualized processes produced the exact same result which somehow becomes part of our conscience. How does this explain that even though people having subjective moral views as a result of these personalized processes still intuitively knowing moral truths that oppose their subjective views through their conscience? </p><p> Naturalistic processes accounting for moral values has been disputed. You cannot equate things like human wellbeing, pain, or pleasure to moral values because they are also subjective determinations.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="stevevw, post: 75157451, member: 342064"] First just because something is widely shared doesn't make it the truth where a person can force it on others. Second who says that because the moral value is widely shared that this makes it a subjective moral view. It may well be that because it is widely shared that this is an objective moral truth that people intuitively know and are mistakenly calling a subjective view. So how do people get this internalized moral truth that becomes etched into their conscience. As far as I know, subjective moral values are something that is personal so this can be the result of upbringing, personal experiences, socialization, enculturation. It seems like a mighty big coincident that all these different individualized processes produced the exact same result which somehow becomes part of our conscience. How does this explain that even though people having subjective moral views as a result of these personalized processes still intuitively knowing moral truths that oppose their subjective views through their conscience? Naturalistic processes accounting for moral values has been disputed. You cannot equate things like human wellbeing, pain, or pleasure to moral values because they are also subjective determinations. [/QUOTE]
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