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<blockquote data-quote="Moral Orel" data-source="post: 75153330" data-attributes="member: 377019"><p>I disagree. Even as a subjectivist who believes nothing holds inherent value, <em>in practice, </em>why does that matter? Simply recognizing a shared opinion on some desired value is enough to build a moral framework. It's like people think that if someone recognizes that some thing isn't in itself actually and really objectively good, then he won't like it anymore.</p><p></p><p>The vast majority of people like being alive and happy; that's sufficient to build a moral framework that is objectively effective at maximizing those values. The nature of morality and values being purely subjective is nothing more than a curiosity. Ironically, it should be noted, that fact holds no inherent importance just like everything else.</p><p></p><p>The only real use I can see for believing in an objective morality is to make a fallacious argument from tradition.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Moral Orel, post: 75153330, member: 377019"] I disagree. Even as a subjectivist who believes nothing holds inherent value, [I]in practice, [/I]why does that matter? Simply recognizing a shared opinion on some desired value is enough to build a moral framework. It's like people think that if someone recognizes that some thing isn't in itself actually and really objectively good, then he won't like it anymore. The vast majority of people like being alive and happy; that's sufficient to build a moral framework that is objectively effective at maximizing those values. The nature of morality and values being purely subjective is nothing more than a curiosity. Ironically, it should be noted, that fact holds no inherent importance just like everything else. The only real use I can see for believing in an objective morality is to make a fallacious argument from tradition. [/QUOTE]
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