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Why on Earth would I care what somebody thinks a million years from now? I find it far more important to care about what people think TODAY!
What's the point, though? If everything is going to end up the same in the end, and there will be no trace of your life or existence, then why even live? It completely baffles me how anyone could be satisfied with such a futile existence.
I get that "nothing" is ok and fine. But wouldnt an amazing-everything be way better? I dont believe in that, but if it were true I'd be all over it rather than just fading into nothing....Thirdly, I have no interest in an after life. The idea of nothing is perfectly acceptable and not frightening....
Why is that an impediment to meaning?Because it will all inevitably end up as nothing in a materialist worldview. Ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
Really? I've never heard this definition. Can you show it to me?Because something that will inevitably be forgotten is meaningless by definition.
I don’t buy your definition. I can’t remember everyday of my 47 years but that does not mean those days forgotten are all meaningless.Because something that will inevitably be forgotten is meaningless by definition.
Can you articulate why?It seems self-evident to me.
Why fall in love? Why get married? Why read a good book, see a movie, enjoy a good meal, if a billion years from not nobody will care? Because it matters today. We enjoy those things now.What's the point, though? If everything is going to end up the same in the end, and there will be no trace of your life or existence, then why even live? It completely baffles me how anyone could be satisfied with such a futile existence.
I don’t buy your definition. I can’t remember everyday of my 47 years but that does not mean those days forgotten are all meaningless.
The majority of humans who ever existed in time are all forgotten, but to say that all those people who lived and died all led meaningless lives is absurd.
And why should that mean that it is worthless here and now?
Why fall in love? Why get married? Why read a good book, see a movie, enjoy a good meal, if a billion years from not nobody will care? Because it matters today. We enjoy those things now.
Do you do anything in life that you enjoy now, that nobody will care about a million years from now? Or are you so preoccupied with what some unknown person will think a million years from now that you can’t enjoy today.
I already said I'm more than happy to take any amount of money from people who feel that something (like their money) being finite is worthless. Let's see how well this theory works in practice.
I still haven't gotten any offers via PM to send me all of one's "meaningless by definition" money, cars and house.Because something that will inevitably be forgotten is meaningless by definition.
I don't. The finite money isn't meaningless to me, only to people who claim that things which aren't infinite in duration are pointless. Or at least that's how it would work if that idea was actually applied consistently.Hey hey fair enough.
On the topic, why do you choose to accept nothing?
To desire something different is to want to make the world "about me". But why should anything of the world be about me in some ultimate sense?...In pure materialism, death is permanent. It cancels out everything. If your value in life is X, your death and eventual fading into obscurity is -X. Add them together and you get 0....
I still haven't gotten any offers via PM to send me all of one's "meaningless by definition" money, cars and house.
Will you care?
To desire something different is to want to make the world "about me". But why should anything of the world be about me in some ultimate sense?
I think there's a touch of self aggrandizement going on here.
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