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The amazing thing is that all the creationists are the ones pushing false science.

And you're right, it is damaging to the faith. Rational people can clearly disprove what they are saying with a little bit of basic research, which casts doubt on all the other crap those preachers are spouting off about.
 
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I'm seeing a whole bunch of translations that don't use the word "science". My guess is that whoever wrote Timothy really didn't have science in mind at all...


New International Version (©1984)
Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to your care. Turn away from godless chatter and the opposing ideas of what is falsely called knowledge,

New Living Translation (©2007)
Timothy, guard what God has entrusted to you. Avoid godless, foolish discussions with those who oppose you with their so-called knowledge.

English Standard Version (©2001)
O Timothy, guard the deposit entrusted to you. Avoid the irreverent babble and contradictions of what is falsely called “knowledge,”

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
O Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to you, avoiding worldly and empty chatter and the opposing arguments of what is falsely called "knowledge "

International Standard Version (©2008)
Timothy, guard what has been entrusted to you. Avoid the pointless discussions and contradictions of what is falsely called knowledge.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
Oh, Timothy, guard that which is committed to you and escape from empty echoes and from the perversions of false knowledge.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Timothy, guard the Good News which has been entrusted to you. Turn away from pointless discussions and the claims of false knowledge that people use to oppose [the Christian faith].

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to your trust, avoiding profane and vain utterances, and oppositions of what is falsely called knowledge:

American Standard Version
O Timothy, guard that which is committed unto thee , turning away from the profane babblings and oppositions of the knowledge which is falsely so called;

Douay-Rheims Bible
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding the profane novelties of words, and oppositions of knowledge falsely so called.

Darby Bible Translation
O Timotheus, keep the entrusted deposit, avoiding profane, vain babblings, and oppositions of false-named knowledge,

English Revised Version
O Timothy, guard that which is committed unto thee, turning away from the profane babblings and oppositions of the knowledge which is falsely so called;

Weymouth New Testament
O Timothy, guard the truths entrusted to you, shunning irreligious and frivolous talk, and controversy with what is falsely called 'knowledge';

World English Bible
Timothy, guard that which is committed to you, turning away from the empty chatter and oppositions of the knowledge which is falsely so called;

Young's Literal Translation
O Timotheus, the thing entrusted guard thou, avoiding the profane vain-words and opposition of the falsely-named knowledge,
 
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No way....i know plenty of people who are doctors,and medical surgeons. Who are far more "brilliant" than you,or i,who believe and know there's a GOD.
 
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No way....i know plenty of people who are doctors,and medical surgeons. Who are far more "brilliant" than you,or i,who believe and know there's a GOD.
Gotta agree with you there. Their private superstitions are as irrelevant for their performances in their jobs as, say, the criteria by which they choose their spouses.
 
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As a matter of fact one of my best friends didn't believe in GOD until he took human anatomy in college. Especially when he studied human DNA.

Is there a point to any of this? Does someone have to drag out the statistics on atheist scientists?
 
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As a matter of fact one of my best friends didn't believe in GOD until he took human anatomy in college. Especially when he studied human DNA.
As we have already agreed upon there is no conflict - but, of course, the fact that he started believing in god/God/GOG/G-d after he had started his studies doesn´t necessarily mean there´s sound logic behind it.
A friend of mine didn´t listen to classical music until he started smoking pot.
 
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Is there a point to any of this? Does someone have to drag out the statistics on atheist scientists?
Yeah...and of coarse in a secular world controlled by satan who hates GOD. And is "the prince of the power of the air"{Media}. Who is "transformed" into an angel of light". Which there is a "transformer" on a light pole every direction you look. Which electricity is eventually translated into an ready made "image" for your eye's to "see". With all kinds of diabolical "messages"{angel:means messenger} for your ears to hear.

Rev 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
 
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Is there a point to any of this? Does someone have to drag out the statistics on atheist scientists?


You asked for a point, Todd, and you got one. The secular world is controlled by Satan who hates GOD. That explains so much.
 
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You asked for a point, Todd, and you got one. The secular world is controlled by Satan who hates GOD. That explains so much.

Yup.

X number of Christians accepting science means they're right!

Y number more of nonChristians accepting science means.......OH LOOK SATAN
 
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there are a lot of things we can't understand yet in our journeys.
 
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well lets keep to the topic at hand, sorry about that. I was just saying that inconclusive knowledge is not knowledge.
 
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As a matter of fact one of my best friends didn't believe in GOD until he took human anatomy in college. Especially when he studied human DNA.

Didn't have that effect on me.

Your friend appears to be easy swayed by things that would not conflict with there being a god or no god, either way.
 
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No way....i know plenty of people who are doctors,and medical surgeons. Who are far more "brilliant" than you,or i,who believe and know there's a GOD.


That's both a non-sequitur and an appeal to inappropriate authority.

Just because they are doctors, does not mean they are either more intelligent, or better informed on theological matters than anyone else.

I was referring to Creationists who label their beliefs as science, when it is not.
 
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As a matter of fact one of my best friends didn't believe in GOD until he took human anatomy in college. Especially when he studied human DNA.


Great, that doesn't mean your friend decided to believe in God for good reasons either.
 
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If you think this world is controlled by Satan, your God is the only one to blame for that.
 
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