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If rocks can be destroyed by catastrophes, can they be created by catastrophes?

If you can explain how...

This is the problem with creationist´s "catastrophism" vs. geologist´s version: geology uses existing and observable mechanisms. Creationists just replace their usual "Goddidit" with "Flooddidit" or "Falldidit" or whatever.

But as they cannot explain how "x did it", it is a rather useless "explanation".
 
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I'm quoting from Appendix 2 of Henry M. Morris' Defender's Study Bible:
 
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If you can explain how...
The specific act is called creatio ex nihilo.
But as they cannot explain how "x did it", it is a rather useless "explanation".
No, it's not.

Creatio ex nihilo is a viable bottom-line explanation that even scientists can understand.
 
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Then don't claim your alleged "divine knowledge" is more accurate than geology.

Because you know sweet Fanny Adams about geology.
If you want to inject "accuracy" into the picture, God said His creation was "very good" --- meaning pluperfect.

And 'sweet Fanny Adams' has nothing on Adam.
 
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