Arminian churches with gifts without disorder

[SuperBunny]

Is there such a thing?

I am not talking about charismatic churches. But an arminian church that believes in gifts but there is no loud tongues, slayings, demoncasting outs, holy laughter etc. But they believe in it still.

Sort of like a Calvary Chapel church but they don't believe in 3 point Calvinism as they do but arminianism.

Are there any reformed churches that are arminian that are not into "disordered gifts". I like the Assembly of God but I do not believe in demoncasting out at all, or slayings in the Spirit. Not one bit. So even the churches that do that just a little really bother me.

 

[countrymousenc]

Methodist, Wesleyan, and Nazarene churches are not "charismatic" but they are non-cessationist; that is, they do not believe the gifts have ceased. You won't see anyone "slain in the Spirit" or demons being cast out, or even (in most of them) hear anyone speak in tongues at all. The Wesleyan and Nazarenes are more conservative than the United Methodists.

 

[Bulldog]

Assiemblies of God is pretty charismatic. I'd say there Arminians. I go to an Assemblies of God school and they teach Arminianism.

 

[SuperBunny]

Methodist, Wesleyan, and Nazarene churches are not "charismatic" but they are non-cessationist; that is, they do not believe the gifts have ceased. You won't see anyone "slain in the Spirit" or demons being cast out, or even (in most of them) hear anyone speak in tongues at all. The Wesleyan and Nazarenes are more conservative than the United Methodists.

Thank you. I wasn't sure if the Wes. and Naz. thought that the gifts had totally ceased or not. I'm glad they don't. Do they allow you to wear makeup, cut hair and wear pants as women do you know?

 

[SuperBunny]

Assiemblies of God is pretty charismatic. I'd say there Arminians. I go to an Assemblies of God school and they teach Arminianism.
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I like that they do teach arminianism. It's the charismatic thing or how they display the gifts that bothers me. I was looking for a church that was armininan and believes in gifts but is not into the charismatic showings (slayings, demoncasting out, etc) or pushing to speak in tonuges. Some of the Assembly of God's are into the "Word of Faith" movement that I do not believe in. Some of them aren't into that though.

It looks like the Wes and Naz are a more stable church to me.

 

[countrymousenc]

Thank you. I wasn't sure if the Wes. and Naz. thought that the gifts had totally ceased or not. I'm glad they don't. Do they allow you to wear makeup, cut hair and wear pants as women do you know?

I don't think that the Nazarenes are overly strict about hair, makeup, clothing, etc. With the Wesleyans, it may vary; there's more than one Wesleyan denomination. I'd suggest checking their official websites. God bless you as you search for a church!

 

[PatrickM]

Thank you. I wasn't sure if the Wes. and Naz. thought that the gifts had totally ceased or not. I'm glad they don't. Do they allow you to wear makeup, cut hair and wear pants as women do you know?

I attended a Free Methodist church for a time. The "free" part is from the 19th century, where some churches were charging for family pews! They're definitely charismatic, much like the Calvary Chapel I now attend. No major clothing issues that I knew of!

They were more open to the moving of the Spirit during worship, with spiritual songs, prophesies, etc., but not disordered at all. They had a pastoral rift, very unfortunate, not due to anything of the gifts, but caused much pain in the body. Fortunately, most have been grounded in the Word, so are moving on. I'll stop now

 

[Reformationist]

Are there any reformed churches that are arminian that are not into "disordered gifts".

What's a reformed church that is arminian? That's an oxymoron.

 

[SuperBunny]

I attended a Free Methodist church for a time. The "free" part is from the 19th century, where some churches were charging for family pews! They're definitely charismatic, much like the Calvary Chapel I now attend. No major clothing issues that I knew of!

They were more open to the moving of the Spirit during worship, with spiritual songs, prophesies, etc., but not disordered at all. They had a pastoral rift, very unfortunate, not due to anything of the gifts, but caused much pain in the body. Fortunately, most have been grounded in the Word, so are moving on. I'll stop now
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This was the Free Methodist church? That is arminian and believes in gifts without disorder? Do you or anyone here know if all Methodists are the same in this? Are the United Methodists like this too?

Does anyone here know if Lutheran and Presbyterian believe in the old spiritual gifts as being for today? I know that the Baptists usually mostly do not.

 

[SuperBunny]

What's a reformed church that is arminian? That's an oxymoron.
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My post belongs here. I am not Charismatic or Word-Faith so it doesn't belong in the other group. Reformed churches are churches that have broken off of the Catholic church which include arminian, pentocostal etc.

 

[orange]

Hi, what is arminian?? Armenia is country and nation. Armenian nation church is Orthodox Church.
But in Armenia and in all world there are many Armenian Protestant Churches. In Armenia there is big Charismatic Church. Armenian Orthodox Church don’t like them and work against them and against Protestants.. I my self don’t see any big gifts in Charismatic and in Pentecostal Churches,
it is mo like advertisement than gift of Holy Ghost. But I learned many truths from them. I think it is good church. But I like them and have friends of them.
. In Armenia live 3 million and in all world 10 million Armenians. In USA 0.5 milion.
So what is mean armenian, but what is arminian I don’t know!!!

Orange in Christ

 

[Bulldog]

What's a reformed church that is arminian? That's an oxymoron.
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My post belongs here. I am not Charismatic or Word-Faith so it doesn't belong in the other group. Reformed churches are churches that have broken off of the Catholic church which include arminian, pentocostal etc.

SuperBunny, Reformed theology is Calvinist theology. Most (if not all) churches that sprouted up during the Reformation were Calvinist. You're post does belong, here, though, because this is not only a Reformed room.

Some denomonations that are referred to as Reformed are:

Reformed Baptist
Presbyterian
Refromed Church in America
Christian Reformed Church
The Church of Scotland (Presbyterian)

Arminian denomonations are not referred to as "Reformed"

 

[countrymousenc]

Hi, what is arminian?? Armenia is country and nation. Armenian nation church is Orthodox Church.
But in Armenia and in all world there are many Armenian Protestant Churches. In Armenia there is big Charismatic Church. Armenian Orthodox Church don’t like them and work against them and against Protestants.. I my self don’t see any big gifts in Charismatic and in Pentecostal Churches,
it is mo like advertisement than gift of Holy Ghost. But I learned many truths from them. I think it is good church. But I like them and have friends of them.
. In Armenia live 3 million and in all world 10 million Armenians. In USA 0.5 milion.
So what is mean armenian, but what is arminian I don’t know!!!

Orange in Christ

"Arminian" refers to a theological stance named for its Protestant founder, James Arminius. It has nothing to do with Armenia. Arminius' followers, the Remonstrants, had a disagreement with Calvins followers over the Calvinist doctrines of irresistable grace and limited atonement. They also questioned perseverance of the saints, but, at the time, did not really take a position on it. If you look up "Remonstrants" on the web, you can read about it.

 

[countrymousenc]

Superbunny,

Protestant Reformation history can get confusing. Bulldog is right in that the churches who call themselves Reformed are Calvinist. That includes the Presbyterians.

To my knowledge, Luther was non-cessationist, and so are the Lutheran churches. The Anglican Church is non-cessationist, and that's where the Methodists came from; all the Wesleyan-type churches in the US today have come from the original Methodists; some of these are Pentecostal churches, such as the Church of God. The Nazarene and Wesleyan (formally named) are not charismatic or pentecostal, but are, nevertheless, non-cessationist (meaning they believe the gifts are still valid). The United Methodist Church also continues to be Arminian and non-cessationist, but they are, on the whole, less conservative. Any church that includes in its name "Methodist" or "Wesleyan" will be Arminian and non-cessationist.

LOL, I hope that's more helpful than confusing!

 

[countrymousenc]

Oh! And I almost forgot: The Moravian churches are non-cessationist, and also not Calvinistic.

 

[pmarquette]

What's a reformed church that is arminian? That's an oxymoron.
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My post belongs here. I am not Charismatic or Word-Faith so it doesn't belong in the other group. Reformed churches are churches that have broken off of the Catholic church which include arminian, pentocostal etc.

I would contend that more churches are armenian than moravian in
tenants practiced ....

I would propose that very few are calvanistic in doctrine ...

 

[countrymousenc]

I would contend that more churches are armenian than moravian in
tenants practiced ....

I'm not sure I understand what you mean; could you explain?

 

[Reformationist]

What's a reformed church that is arminian? That's an oxymoron.
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My post belongs here. I am not Charismatic or Word-Faith so it doesn't belong in the other group. Reformed churches are churches that have broken off of the Catholic church which include arminian, pentocostal etc.

Okay. Just for future reference, you may want to define the broad sense in which you use the label "reformed" since most on this MB do not use it in that sense. Traditionally, "reformed" is a catagory for those faiths that hold to the doctrines of the reformers, i.e., Luther, Calvin, Knox, Zwingli, etc. Arminian churches are not based on the teachings of the reformers. They are based on the teachings of the remonstrants, who were those who opposed the teachings of the reformers. These people were the students of Jakob Hermann (Arminius).

It may help avoid confusion.

God bless