Are you mad?

[memoriesbymichelle]

Do you get mad when people don't agree with you or you can't sway them to your point of view? If so, why?

I can think of a few instances where I have changed my opinion after conversing with someone

I cannot think of any instances where I have been able to sway others to my point of view.

I think conversations with differences of opinion are very interesting, but I do not engage in them to convert the others to my way of thinking.
Do you?

 

[Life2Christ]

Do you get mad when people don't agree with you or you can't sway them to your point of view? If so, why?

Getting mad over that is a sign that you have a big ego. If someone doesn't agree, I just let it go. When I do not agree with my mother she says something like "Ok, if you don't agree you will suffer, your ideas won't work. But you'll learn the hard way, good luck!" This is how I grew up and why I have issues with self-confidence.

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

Getting mad over that is a sign that you have a big ego. If someone doesn't agree, I just let it go. When I do not agree with my mother she says something like "Ok, if you don't agree you will suffer, your ideas won't work. But you'll learn the hard way, good luck!" This is how I grew up and why I have issues with self-confidence.

Sounds like she was trying to guilt you into going with her ideas. I do agree that getting mad may be a sign of your big ego and it could also be a narcissistic character flaw too. Some people only see the world thru "their" thoughts and can't understand why anyone would think differently.

What I find amusing online (not here, mostly in the comments sections of articles) is when some people disagree they immediately resort to name calling, "well you're a blah blah blah blah blah!" and I'm just like WOW that should make them change their minds, right? NOT! LOL.

One time someone said to me "Well you know! Perception IS reality!" and after I pondered that for awhile I thought "you know they are right! Perception IS the reality FOR THE PERSON PERCEIVING IT, but not necessarily for everyone in general.

 

[dayhiker]

I really enjoy talking with someone I disagree with. I've done it a lot in my life. I have changed my mind a lot of things as I've talked with and read others views, especially if they have collected data to back up with they say.

I have changed others views also. I have no idea how many .. but I'm pretty sure its over one!

Opinions are like speech ... if I want to have my view on something, I got to give them their view on something. Freedom of speech starts with freedom to think. Which means a person has to get an education and think thru the issues, then get the back bone to stand up and speak it. For a long time I had my own private thoughts, I didn't speak them, partly because I didn't know how to talk so people were interested in hearing me speak. But also because I wasn't bold enough. Now I can speak what I believe. I do want to change others to believe what I do.

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

LOL at your last statement "I do want to change others to believe what I do".

On some things I would agree, like being a believer, but on something else like Politics for example, I don't think most people are as flexible as you. I am completely (in my mind anyway) open minded and if someone disagrees with me that's OK as long as they are not badgering me to see things their way, or resulting in insults like name calling.

The bible speaks about not wrangling over words and while I think it is fascinating to listen to why other people think the way they do, I don't wish to wrangle with them.

 

[If Not For Grace]

95% of the time I can agree to disagree. I did get mad at my Dad because he's a racist (But I think I was more mad because he wanted me to be one too).

In conversations I have been swayed to look at things from a different pespective and I have swayed others-actually I think we just open each others world's a bit when we share our experience and views on a subject. It's more about sharing than convincing.

At my age I am pretty well set in my views as are my cronies, and if it could have been said it likely has been. I don't care too much what people think of my opinions. I stopped being a people pleaser years ago.

 

[mjmcmillan]

You know, when someone opens a door like this one my sense of humor kicks in. Then I go on the prowl to find something that seems to fit. This was one of the tamer pieces. You really don't want to get me started, trust me on this.

 

[exitstageright]

Do you get mad when people don't agree with you or you can't sway them to your point of view? If so, why?

I can think of a few instances where I have changed my opinion after conversing with someone

I cannot think of any instances where I have been able to sway others to my point of view.

I think conversations with differences of opinion are very interesting, but I do not engage in them to convert the others to my way of thinking.
Do you?

I usual get mad,when I am telling someone the truth,and that person does not believe me. After I show them the proof,then they will belive me. I get perplexed. I say to myself,"Why doesn't this person belive me? Why am I am being treated as if I am a pathological liar,or a con man? My reputation does not speak of me as a con man.

Now,I do admit that I like to try to persuade people to my side of thinking.When I was a child,I was so impressed by the fact that Paul was very persuasive during his teachings,prechings,and testamonies.
But,I just have to realized that even the Apostle Paul failed to persuade King Aagrippa.
Yes, I have the same chloeric temperment as Paul had,the will to try to get things done at all cost. Come hell or high water,I will try to get this thing done.

 

[mjmcmillan]

 

[mjmcmillan]

Serious note: I've recently had cause to get a little steamed about stuff right here on CF. In the married section, we had a guy start a thread on domestic violence against men. I have some personal interest in the subject since I've been a victim. Turns out the OP wasn't really all that interested in what anybody else had to say, he's just playing with us. That thread is locked now, but not before it got a number of posters, myself included, more than a trifle warm. Another thread I didn't respond to over thataway dealt with a newlywed couple where the wife has, for all practical purposes, frozen her newlywed hubby out of the bedroom and it appeared that nothing he could do would un-freeze her. That turned out to be another one where the OP was playing games with the rest of us, and it reaped appropriate rewards including a thread lock.

Then of course we have the "Can you live without sex" thread here, which had elements of "Guess what, pal, you ain't getting any" in it. My response is what it is and I won't be changing it any time soon. Marriage without some sort of intimacy is no marriage at all, or at least not one I willingly volunteer for out of the box. If my response makes me "passive-aggressive" as one poster charges, then so be it. I stand by what I wrote.

Now--- let me see if I can dig up some humorous photos.

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

Serious note: I've recently had cause to get a little steamed about stuff right here on CF. In the married section, we had a guy start a thread on domestic violence against men. I have some personal interest in the subject since I've been a victim. Turns out the OP wasn't really all that interested in what anybody else had to say, he's just playing with us. That thread is locked now, but not before it got a number of posters, myself included, more than a trifle warm. Another thread I didn't respond to over thataway dealt with a newlywed couple where the wife has, for all practical purposes, frozen her newlywed hubby out of the bedroom and it appeared that nothing he could do would un-freeze her. That turned out to be another one where the OP was playing games with the rest of us, and it reaped appropriate rewards including a thread lock.

Then of course we have the "Can you live without sex" thread here, which had elements of "Guess what, pal, you ain't getting any" in it. My response is what it is and I won't be changing it any time soon. Marriage without some sort of intimacy is no marriage at all, or at least not one I willingly volunteer for out of the box. If my response makes me "passive-aggressive" as one poster charges, then so be it. I stand by what I wrote.

Now--- let me see if I can dig up some humorous photos.

See now, to me I tend to look back at things and think WOW the devil was really working hard on that one, as in certain situations that I have encountered, whether it be online or in person. I just want to state again that the intention of the "Can you live without sex" thread was not the Ha Ha tricked ya! Now that I've gotcha you ain't touching me version that "seems" to be the current direction. It was when certain male memebers were wailing almost that they just couldn't possibly be happy if they couldn't have sex. Now I get it, some men just can't, I guess. So I was invisioning that say for example they get Mrs. Right and they have a fantastic life including sex galore and then dum dum dum Something happens. Would they throw the relationship away? And I was not talking about the freeze out. I was talking about some other circumstance that may not be able to be helped by either party. Not a voluntary disengagement by one party.
All that being said....I would not want to be in a business type marriage where there is no intimacy either. But I also would not want to have sex with Mr.Demanding just because he wants it. If he wants it, he should learn how to make it enjoyable for both of us because I am not his sex slave. But that doesn't mean I freeze him out until he figures it out either. So I hope that clears up my end.

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

I usual get mad,when I am telling someone the truth,and that person does not believe me. After I show them the proof,then they will belive me. I get perplexed. I say to myself,"Why doesn't this person belive me? Why am I am being treated as if I am a pathological liar,or a con man? My reputation does not speak of me as a con man.

Now,I do admit that I like to try to persuade people to my side of thinking.When I was a child,I was so impressed by the fact that Paul was very persuasive during his teachings,prechings,and testamonies.
But,I just have to realized that even the Apostle Paul failed to persuade King Aagrippa.
Yes, I have the same chloeric temperment as Paul had,the will to try to get things done at all cost. Come hell or high water,I will try to get this thing done.

What if it's just YOUR truth as in your opinion? Just because you think you are right you aren't always right, just sayin'

 

[CounselorForChrist]

We are human and sometimes get mad. I know myself unless its something about biblical facts I don't care to get mad about something. Because what I think is my opinion just as what someone else thinks is their opinion.

 

[exitstageright]

What if it's just YOUR truth as in your opinion? Just because you think you are right you aren't always right, just sayin'

Is not the truth is the truth is the truth? Im not talking about opinion,just fact. For example,over two thousand years ago,many people had the opinon that the earth is flat. The truth is that the earth is not flat. It does not matter if someone thinks,ponders,wonders,or feels. The truth is that the earth is not flat. The truth is not relative.

 

[blackribbon]

Is not the truth is the truth is the truth? Im not talking about opinion,just fact. For example,over two thousand years ago,many people had the opinon that the earth is flat. The truth is that the earth is not flat. It does not matter if someone thinks,ponders,wonders,or feels. The truth is that the earth is not flat. The truth is not relative.

But at that time, even some "experts" would have said that "the world is flat" was truth and been able to provide persuasive evidence that they were correct. So sometimes we only THINK we have the truth.

The number of scientific theories that people believe are really "law" is proof that we still have this problem. And when you are speaking about people and relationships...there is NO absolute TRUTH....just opinion. There is no ALL Women or ALL Men in anything...even in basics such as anatomy...because there is always an anomaly.

I mean most people (even scientists) believe in evolution...even though it blantently goes against the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics...(super simple form basically says that things go from "order" to "disorder" when left alone...nothing goes naturally from simple to complex.)

 

[memoriesbymichelle]

Hey exit.....do you get mad when you are wrong? Or do you just never admit to being wrong?

 

[exitstageright]

Hey exit.....do you get mad when you are wrong? Or do you just never admit to being wrong?

Yes, I do admit when I have been proven wrong,or when it is obvious that I was wrong. For example,I do admit that I was wrong marrying the two women who I married and divorced.

 

[Jenster]

You ask some very good and interesting questions, Michelle. They get me thinking. I'm sorry I'm not on CF more these days! Work is too busy.

I do get mad in conversation sometimes not because I want people to believe like me but sometimes people's opinions are not that well-reasoned. They make incredible "connections" that aren't logical, and it seems that the more illogical it is the more adamant they are.

And then, yes, some people don't want to reason with you, they want to stir people up or call the other person names because they can't handle someone who doesn't believe like they do. I have a word for when people behave like that: boring.

 

[redblue22]

I feel like talking is enjoyable good for bonding and learning. I'm quite happy if that is the purpose of dialogue. I'm not into winning or being accused. Sometimes people have thoughts and emotions they need to share with someone safe. I'm willing to be there. I'm not really into providing answers. But I do get uncomfortable or even angry when someone steps in as the authority when some of us are just sharing and bonding and learning together.

 

[renewed21]

Do you get mad when people don't agree with you or you can't sway them to your point of view? If so, why?

no


I can think of a few instances where I have changed my opinion after conversing with someone

I cannot think of any instances where I have been able to sway others to my point of view.

I think conversations with differences of opinion are very interesting, but I do not engage in them to convert the others to my way of thinking.
Do you?

I used too, but mostly it is futile unless the person you are conversing with trusts and respects your opinion.