Are You Left Or Right?

[Chesterton]

The words "left" and "right" in the political context can spark much discussion as to what they mean, but for this simple poll I'll assume everyone basically knows what they mean. And yes, the wording of the poll is a bit vague, and that's intentional.

 

[Hazelelponi]

Right.

 

[Paulos23]

Left, according to the Right.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Moderate

 

[Fantine]

Both. I am left and "correct."

 

[Sif]

Neither.

Like my signature says: "I am not altogether on anybody's side, because nobody is altogether on my side"

There are issues/topics where I am "left" and other where I am "right". Examples: I am a big 2nd Amendment supporter (yes I own and train with 'scary' stuff) but I am Pro-environmental protection (without going far-crazy-Left like some Green folks).

 

[MotoToTheMax]

I can't stand sinister handed people and I hope we pass discrimination laws against them.

 

[durangodawood]

The words "left" and "right" in the political context can spark much discussion as to what they mean, but for this simple poll I'll assume everyone basically knows what they mean. And yes, the wording of the poll is a bit vague, and that's intentional.

Right now the words are so charged that "extreme" is almost an unspoken assumption people add to the front of them.

I'm moderate left. But I appreciate what the moderate right brings to the table.

 

[Chesterton]

Left, according to the Right.

lol, no weasel answers. I mean according to you, your understanding.

 

[Paulos23]

lol, no weasel answers. I mean according to you, your understanding.

I use to think I was center, but the Right kept moving everything to the Right, so now they call me Left.

I am Left because everyone moved to the Right.

This is not a weasel answer, to me this is fact.

 

[durangodawood]

Im for the abolition of class, private property, gender, firearms, the nuclear family, and individual clothing choices. Am I "left"?

 

[Always in His Presence]

Im for the abolition of class, private property, gender, firearms, the nuclear family, and individual clothing choices. Am I "left"?

No, you would have to come 100 miles to the right to be considered left.

I hope your post was a joke.

 

[Chesterton]

I use to think I was center, but the Right kept moving everything to the Right, so now they call me Left.

Can you elaborate on how the Right kept moving everything to the Right? The way I see it, the Right kept moving to the Left. Take Richard Nixon for example. He was considered Right, and a great enemy for the Left, yet he supported rent control and tried to appease commie China among other things.

However, the Right and Left both once acknowledged that there were such things as men and women, and the Right hasn't moved anywhere on that, but the Left has moved so much further Left on that that they've moved to a place which would have previously been considered mental illness.

 

[Chesterton]

Im for the abolition of class, private property, gender, firearms, the nuclear family, and individual clothing choices. Am I "left"?

No, you've not gone far enough. Someone will want to abolish more stuff and then you'll be considered Right. You have to stay one step ahead of the purity spiral.

 

[durangodawood]

No, you've not gone far enough. Someone will want to abolish more stuff and then you'll be considered Right. You have to stay one step ahead of the purity spiral.

I forgot religion. Wow, glaring oversight.

 

[durangodawood]

I've been quite moved by testimony of people who had to live under the Soviet regime..... to the point where I agree with Ronald Reagan that "evil empire" really was a suitable label.

The Captive Mind by Czeslaw Milosz was great. Not a horrific slave camp diary or anything. Just the way a totalitarian state can turn people against each other and against themselves really, especially those who work in artistic or intellectual realms.

As for Reagan tho, he ran (well, barely ran) one of the most corrupt admins ever, and some of his (well, who knows if it was really his) war policy in C. America was despicable.

 

[Chesterton]

I've been quite moved by testimony of people who had to live under the Soviet regime..... to the point where I agree with Ronald Reagan that "evil empire" really was a suitable label.

An elderly lady in my church lived under the regime. She immigrated here in the late '90's. When I first met her I used to talk to her a lot about the experience. I ask her cliche things I'd heard growing up: "is it true you had to stand in long lines for bread"? "No, we had to stand in long lines for everything."

She lived in an apartment in Moscow, but she had inherited a large estate in the country, and the government just took it. I'm like "what do you mean they took it"? "They just took it." "I mean what was the legal process? What was the justification?" She's like "There's no legal process if some party officials decide they want something."

She said the only thing that could be seen as an upside is that people are artificially nice to each other. You don't want to get in a beef with a neighbor, because all it takes is one person accusing you of secretly bad-mouthing the Party, and you could be off to hard labor in a far away gulag for as long as they want.

Just remember that the Left in America and the West always glorified what a utopia the U.S.S.R. was. When it collapsed I thought "thank goodness that's over". But no, the Left is very stubborn, it's not over, and this what you support, Durango. IT'S ALL ON YOU. I don't know how you sleep at night. tsk tsk smh

Although I do kinda like your idea about abolishing people's clothing choices, because I was in Walmart yesterday, and there was this heavy set lady...oof...you don't even wanna know.

The Captive Mind by Czeslaw Milosz was great. Not a horrific slave camp diary or anything. Just the way a totalitarian state can turn people against each other and against themselves really, especially those who work in artistic or intellectual realms.

Have you ever seen the film The Lives Of Others? It's about life in East Germany, and kind of about what you're talking about. Very good film.

 

[MehGuy]

I consider myself left economically and socially. Although I do hold some views others (especially on the left) consider conservative and very politically incorrect. Even then.. I think I hold those views from a non-conservative lens.

Conservatism has always struck me as something relative. Especially when people talk about liberal and conservative brains. If someone is raised in a hyper liberal home and they turn out to lean right. The processes their brain uses to get there is different than a kid who was raised in a conservative home and questions little and consider themselves right leaning, and vice versa.

 

[Yttrium]

I was a centrist until recently, but all the fiscal conservatives have gone away, so I'm not sure what constitutes the right and left anymore. I don't know where the center is. All I know is that my plans for global warming are cooking along nicely, so in time it won't matter.

 

[durangodawood]

She said the only thing that could be seen as an upside is that people are artificially nice to each other. You don't want to get in a beef with a neighbor, because all it takes is one person accusing you of secretly bad-mouthing the Party, and you could be off to hard labor in a far away gulag for as long as they want.

Yeah its horrific. Interesting testimony there.

Just remember that the Left in America and the West always glorified what a utopia the U.S.S.R. was. When it collapsed I thought "thank goodness that's over". But no, the Left is very stubborn, it's not over, and this what you support, Durango. IT'S ALL ON YOU. I don't know how you sleep at night. tsk tsk smh

I dont buy it. Plenty of countries are somewhere left of the USA without sliding into totalitarianism.

Although I do kinda like your idea about abolishing people's clothing choices, because I was in Walmart yesterday, and there was this heavy set lady...oof...you don't even wanna know.

Most Americans dont use their freedom to dress themselves responsibly.

Have you ever seen the film The Lives Of Others? It's about life in East Germany, and kind of about what you're talking about. Very good film.

Its been a while. I recall it capturing what we're talking about.