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Are you a Homoousian?

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  • Heterousian

  • Homoousian

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ranmaonehalf

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Despite how it sounds it is a rather innocent term.

Via wiki
Homoousian (Greek: ὁμοούσιος, from the Greek: ὁμός, homós, "same" and οὐσία, ousía, "essence, being") is a technical theological term used in discussion of the Christian understanding of God as Trinity. The Nicene Creed describes Jesus as being homooúsios with God the Father — that is, they are of the "same substance" and are equally God. This Gnostic originated term, officially adopted by the First Council of Nicaea, was intended to add clarity to the relationship between Christ and God the Father within the Godhead (though Godhead was not a term used at Nicaea).

Do you believe in the trinity and jesus_ god essentially or are you Heterousian?
 

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I'm sure the church fathers did the best possible job in trying to define and explain Trinity in terms of the philosophic categories available to them, but it increasingly strikes me as rediculous for me to try to adopt those categories when they are not part of my philosophy, biblical philosophy or the philosophy of the culture in which I exist.

One God in three Persons, distinct and yet singular and unique. And I'm not overly fussed about trying to tightly define or explain how that works.

So I couldn't really even tick 'undecided'.
 
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serious posted in message #5 of this thread:

So what is God made out of?

Greetings.

God is a Spirit (John 4:24).

serious posted in message #5 of this thread:

If God is incorporeal and Jesus was not, wouldn't they be made out
of different stuff by definition?

While Jesus Christ as God the Word has taken on a human body of
flesh (John 1:1,14), and so has become God the Son (Luke 1:35,
Hebrews 1:8), the Spirit of Jesus Christ remains the divine Spirit of
God, the same substance (homo-ousia) as God the Father and God
the Holy Spirit (Romans 8:9, Matthew 10:20, Mark 13:11b). They are
Three Persons who exist at the same time, yet they remain One God
(John 10:30, Mark 12:29). An analogy would be 1x1x1=1, or 1a x 1b
x 1c=1abc. Another analogy would be a drinking glass containing at
the same time one-third ice, one-third water, and one-third water
vapour: while the glass contains three separate forms of H20 at the
same time, the three forms are all the same substance, the same
H20. Three co-existent forms, one H20. Three co-existent Persons,
one God.

Another analogy would be light from the sun: when we see the ball in
the sky we call the sun, we can mentally distinguish it from the
sunlight we see on the flesh of our arm, and we can distinguish both
from the warmth we feel inside our arm from the sunlight on our arm;
and yet all three things are the same thing: the same
electromagnetism. When we see the sun in the sky, we are seeing
the visible electromagnetism given off from it; when we see the light
from the sun on the flesh of our arm, we are seeing the same visible
electromagnetism on our flesh; and when we feel the warmth from
the sun in our arm we are feeling the same electromagnetism, just in
its invisible, infrared range of frequencies.
 
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I read your definition but still don't know the answer. The trinity is three distinct persons who are the same in essense and power- they all three are God; The Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Is this the same as substance? Substance sounds like they are one person who has three titles - I don't believe this definition at all.
 
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