Are Traditions Needed?

Gregory Thompson · Apr 6, 2019

I find living in questions gives me a broader reach than when I sought a single conclusion, but each question and even living in questions consists of traditions in and of themselves. Recognizing our own patterns is important, a good skill for sanctification.

To say you have no tradition means you do not eat or go to the bathroom, everyone has consistent patterns, and recognizing these is helpful if you want to be transformed from the foundation up.

chevyontheriver · Apr 6, 2019

W2L said:
Tradition only causes debate, and its totally unnecessary.

No. Some traditions are absolutely necessary. Without them we have endless debates that often are impossible to settle. Look at all the Protestants who say they have no traditions and argue and split incessantly. My opinion is that they are actually tradition bound but cannot face up to the fact that they even have traditions. I'm happy to have traditions, to know I have traditions, and to be able to scrutinize them. I don't reject them out of hand, and I am free to retain all the good ones. Like the apostle Paul advised in 2 Thess 2:15.

W2L · Apr 6, 2019

Tree of Life said:
I'm trying to imagine what life must be like without traditions. How long are the sermons at your church on Sundays?

The Lords words ministers to me daily, but i have lost faith in preachers/teachers. Look at all the incessant debate on these forums, some of which is about traditions. Why should i want that?

Tree of Life · Apr 6, 2019

W2L said:
The Lords words ministers to me daily, but i have lost faith in preachers/teachers. Look at all the incessant debate on these forums, some of which is about traditions. Why should i want that?

This says it all.

Maybe "I have no traditions" means "I'm all alone in my Christian walk."

Natsumi Lam · Apr 6, 2019

Michael Collum said:
I find living in questions gives me a broader reach than when I sought a single conclusion, but each question and even living in questions consists of traditions in and of themselves. Recognizing our own patterns is important, a good skill for sanctification.

To say you have no tradition means you do not eat or go to the bathroom, everyone has consistent patterns, and recognizing these is helpful if you want to be transformed from the foundation up.

But do you think to follow traditions just for tradition's sake is helpful?

SkyWriting · Apr 6, 2019

Natsumi Lam said:
Hi Family,

As I look to the different denominations I see some riddled with traditions that some individuals find necessary to bless or to appease God.

Do we need these traditions?

Are we naive or small minded to place value on traditions?

Do traditions save you?

Are they necessary?

Why do traditions that are contradictory to the Word even allowed to continue?

~Natsumi Lam~

As I visit more and more denominations, I find less and less important differences.
Visit 12 or more then reconsider.

W2L · Apr 6, 2019

chevyontheriver said:
No. Some traditions are absolutely necessary. Without them we have endless debates that often are impossible to settle. Look at all the Protestants who say they have no traditions and argue and split incessantly. My opinion is that they are actually tradition bound but cannot face up to the fact that they even have traditions. I'm happy to have traditions, to know I have traditions, and to be able to scrutinize them. I don't reject them out of hand, and I am free to retain all the good ones. Like the apostle Paul advised in 2 Thess 2:15.

Some have said the bible is tradition. Ok i have one tradition, but i reject the rest.

Danielwright2311 · Apr 6, 2019

Traditions of religion was dead after Jesus came and died then rose again.

But people still follow traditions of religion, its so odd how people do not follow Jesus, I pray for them all.

Gregory Thompson · Apr 6, 2019

Natsumi Lam said:
But do you think to follow traditions just for tradition's sake is helpful?

No.

Traditions need to remain useful.

Once traditions are no longer of use, or start accomplishing the opposite purpose that was originally intended, they must be discarded.

chevyontheriver · Apr 6, 2019

Natsumi Lam said:
But do you think to follow traditions just for tradition's sake is helpful?

Sometimes. Like the tradition of stopping for a red light. That one keeps me out of lots of trouble. Or driving on the right side of the road.

W2L · Apr 6, 2019

SkyWriting said:
As I visit more and more denominations, I find less and less important differences.
Visit 12 or more then reconsider.

Said the guy who doesnt believe in following written commands unless written by the government.

chevyontheriver · Apr 6, 2019

W2L said:
Some have said the bible is tradition. Ok i have one tradition, but i reject the rest.

Do you follow 2 Thess 2: 15?
So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter.

Cis.jd · Apr 6, 2019

Natsumi Lam said:
Hi Family,

As I look to the different denominations I see some riddled with traditions that some individuals find necessary to bless or to appease God.

Do we need these traditions?

Are we naive or small minded to place value on traditions?

Do traditions save you?

Are they necessary?

Why do traditions that are contradictory to the Word even allowed to continue?

~Natsumi Lam~

On a broader scope.

Traditions are good because it tries to make sure no one goes radical. We can identify if something isn't correct or is just plain weird when it is already deviating from it's roots. This applies for everything and not just christianity. For example, some people believe it is christian like to believe in a guy on stage who swings his $30,000 jacket at somebody to remove the sin or heal the person. You can make any biblical case as to what they are doing is wrong and they can counter to justify themselves. We all know that is a load of baloney because this was never taught or even documented by early christians.

contrary, holding on to traditions too strongly can also be bad because society and the world itself changes and evolves. Certain situations and circumstances happen in where traditional views maybe an unwise decision or system in general to follow.

There are several catholic schools that I know who do not allow admission to kids who were born from unmarried parents, mainly because of a traditional catholic view on marriage. While this view isn't generally catholic, it is rooted from church upbringing that is passed/taught. Now, even if this tradition was established by "saints" historically, that doesn't mean it should be followed. It's simply wrong and irrational to reject a persons right to education because of traditional beliefs on marriage.

It all depends. I believe tradition is good but just like anything, there has to be reason as well to help balance it out.

Gregory Thompson · Apr 6, 2019

chevyontheriver said:
Do you follow 2 Thess 2: 15?
So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught by us, either by word of mouth or by letter.

Word of mouth tradition = broken telephone

W2L · Apr 6, 2019

Tree of Life said:
This says it all.

Maybe "I have no traditions" means "I'm all alone in my Christian walk."

Nope. Why would you assume? Is the topic of this thread about making assumptions about W2L?

chevyontheriver · Apr 6, 2019

Michael Collum said:
Word of mouth tradition = broken telephone

And yet Paul wrote it in something which the Church canonized as Scripture that word of mouth teaching could be valid. And more to the point that Traditions were things we should hold to as matters of the faith.

SkyWriting · Apr 6, 2019

W2L said:
Said the guy who doesnt believe in following written commands unless written by the government.

Ouchh! A knife in the gut! How would that be relevant agin'?

Visit 3 of the same denominations and the variations in the three churches will be greater than you can imagine. But visit more and the local variations all smooth out. The message of salvation stays the same.

Tree of Life · Apr 6, 2019

W2L said:
Nope. Why would you assume? Is the topic of this thread about making assumptions about W2L?

So what do you and your Christian buddies do for church?

W2L · Apr 6, 2019

SkyWriting said:
Ouchh! A knife in the gut!
Visit 3 of the same denominations and the variations in the three churches will be greater than you can imagine. But visit more and the local variations all smooth out.

Sorry but im having a hard time understanding your position.You dont agree with the Lords commands but do agree with tradition? Perhaps im just misreading?

W2L · Apr 6, 2019

Tree of Life said:
So what do you and your Christian buddies do for church?

The commands of the Lord and His apostles. Pray, be thankful, teach each other in Psalms and songs.

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