Are there still evil angels that didn’t fall with Satan?

[tonychanyt]

Psalm 103:

20 Bless the LORD, O you his angels, you mighty ones who do his word,
obeying the voice of his word!
Bless the LORD, all his hosts,
his ministers, who do his will!

Revelation 12:7

There was war in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon. And the dragon and his angels fought back, but he was defeated, and there was no longer any place for them in heaven. And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

Are there still bad angels in heaven after the above?

Probably not.

Mt 6:

9 Pray then like this: “Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. 10 Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.

God's will in heaven is perfectly obeyed.

Matthew 25:

31 When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then he will sit on his glorious throne.

Hebrews 1:

14 Are they not all ministering spirits sent out to serve for the sake of those who are to inherit salvation?

Are there still evil angels that didn’t fall with Satan?

I doubt it.

 

[KevinT]

Mt 6:

9 Pray then like this: “Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. 10 Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.

God's will in heaven is perfectly obeyed.

I agree with your overall thesis and conclusion. But I'm wondering if the text quoted above supports what you say in a strictly logical manner. I think I'm splitting hairs, but it gave me pause when I read it.

I am hearing you say "God's will is done in heaven" ==> God's will is 100% achieved in heaven. But does the fact that angels exist in heaven that follow God's will PRECLUDE evil angels in heaven that do NOT following God's will?

In God's universe, there is not uniform adherence to God's will. Earth is a known example of a location at rebellion, though it unstated if there are other locations as well. I think the Bible is presenting a simplistic division the universe according to an earthy perspective: Earth vs everywhere else ("heaven"). It is possible that God took all the rebels (Satan and his fallen angels) from their original locations and confined them to Earth. But there could be other rebel hangouts as well -- we just don't know.

I might say, "Oh that my hometown had restaurants serving delicious Thai food like they serve in Bangkok." But this doesn't logically mean that an Italian restaurant could not also be found in Bangkok.

I don't want to distract from the core intent of your OP, which I agree with. And I appreciate the thought and effort you put into answering these interesting theoretical questions. Thank you!

Best wishes,
Kevin

 

[tonychanyt]

But I'm wondering if the text quoted above supports what you say in a strictly logical manner.

No, not in a strictly logical manner. That's why I used phrases like 'probably not' and 'I doubt it'. They are probabilistic phrases.

I am hearing you say "God's will is done in heaven" ==> God's will is 100% achieved in heaven.

You have overread. I am particularly careful with a formal symbol like '=>'.

But does the fact that angels exist in heaven that follow God's will PRECLUDE evil angels in heaven that do NOT following God's will?

I read it probabilistically.

Basically, be careful to distinguish first-order logic from probability in my wording.

You are a good guy. I always respect your writing

 

[Abinowam]

Yes there are

 

[David Lamb]

Yes there are

So where are they? Not in heaven - nothing evil could be there.