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Are There Other Gods?
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<blockquote data-quote="Petros2015" data-source="post: 76310810" data-attributes="member: 388403"><p>I suppose the answer depends on what is the definition of a God?</p><p></p><p>Is it something that can change a circumstance when appealed to, or something that can change the appealer when appealed to? There might be things which could grant, say, wisdom about a particular situation. Or change a particular circumstance. But the Christian God starts by saying "Let there be Light". “God is light,” says 1 John 1:5, “and in him is no darkness at all.”</p><p></p><p>So, "Let there be Light" from this particular God is I suppose in some metaphysical sense a little like saying</p><p></p><p>"Let there be Me".</p><p></p><p>I'm a Neil Gaiman fan, and a lot of his stories revolve around the interaction of mythos (the lesser "Gods" and the Endless) and humanity and I do wonder sometimes. I think something like that might not be beyond the bounds of Creation. But it's not my business to seek it out (I'm forbidden from it), and even in Gaiman's stories, it doesn't always end well for those that do (or more often, those who accidentally cross paths with them). I can't speak for other Gods, I can only speak for the one who spoke to me, and that was Christ before the Cross. But, if any others do, I'll let you know.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]307516[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Personally, I just don't see evidence of anything else in the Let there be Light category; a second Creator. I'm not sure it would make sense. I suppose to me a God would be "That which can not be resisted". It's fairly easy to find things like that, but after one goes up the chain further and further, you (or I at least) eventually find what I would consider to be God. Who says basically the buck stops here.</p><p></p><p>In Isaiah 44</p><p></p><p><em>8 Do not fear, nor be afraid;</em></p><p><em>Have I not told you from that time, and declared it?</em></p><p><em>You are My witnesses.</em></p><p><em>Is there a God besides Me?</em></p><p><em>Indeed there is no other Rock;</em></p><p><em>I know not one.’ ”</em></p><p></p><p>Were there other Gods, one who said "Let there be Light" and another who said "Let there be Gravity" and another who said "Let there be Time" and another who said "Let there be Life"? It seems unlikely to me. Though, "Wisdom" is spoken of poetically in the Proverbs (8). But even in this (which I *think* is to be taken more poetically than literally), she is a Created being. Not an independent Creator herself, but working beside Him and in concert with Him.</p><p></p><p>I'm really not sure. Maybe one day we'll get to meet.</p><p><em></em></p><p><em>22 The Lord created me at the beginning of his work,</em></p><p><em>the first of his acts of long ago.</em></p><p><em>23 Ages ago I was set up,</em></p><p><em>at the first, before the beginning of the earth.</em></p><p><em>24 When there were no depths I was brought forth,</em></p><p><em>when there were no springs abounding with water.</em></p><p><em>25 Before the mountains had been shaped,</em></p><p><em>before the hills, I was brought forth—</em></p><p><em>26 when he had not yet made earth and fields,</em></p><p><em>or the world’s first bits of soil.</em></p><p><em>27 When he established the heavens, I was there,</em></p><p><em>when he drew a circle on the face of the deep,</em></p><p><em>28 when he made firm the skies above,</em></p><p><em>when he established the fountains of the deep,</em></p><p><em>29 when he assigned to the sea its limit,</em></p><p><em>so that the waters might not transgress his command,</em></p><p><em>when he marked out the foundations of the earth, 30</em></p><p><em>then I was beside him, like a master worker;</em></p><p><em>and I was daily his delight,</em></p><p><em>rejoicing before him always,</em></p><p></p><p>And in the Genesis creation story</p><p><em></em></p><p><em>And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air</em></p><p></p><p>Which is interpreted as a pre-notion or foreshadowing of the Trinity concept later revealed. But it does support a plurality, or perhaps God doing something in concert with others. (the Trinity from the Christian perspective, or perhaps 'the host of spirit").</p><p></p><p>I would have to say, as a Christian, that the Heavenly Father, while remaining God, does appear to have a fondness for delegation. But then again, what Dad does not put his own sons to work for him? Or what King does not give his own subjects commands?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Petros2015, post: 76310810, member: 388403"] I suppose the answer depends on what is the definition of a God? Is it something that can change a circumstance when appealed to, or something that can change the appealer when appealed to? There might be things which could grant, say, wisdom about a particular situation. Or change a particular circumstance. But the Christian God starts by saying "Let there be Light". “God is light,” says 1 John 1:5, “and in him is no darkness at all.” So, "Let there be Light" from this particular God is I suppose in some metaphysical sense a little like saying "Let there be Me". I'm a Neil Gaiman fan, and a lot of his stories revolve around the interaction of mythos (the lesser "Gods" and the Endless) and humanity and I do wonder sometimes. I think something like that might not be beyond the bounds of Creation. But it's not my business to seek it out (I'm forbidden from it), and even in Gaiman's stories, it doesn't always end well for those that do (or more often, those who accidentally cross paths with them). I can't speak for other Gods, I can only speak for the one who spoke to me, and that was Christ before the Cross. But, if any others do, I'll let you know. [ATTACH=full]307516[/ATTACH] Personally, I just don't see evidence of anything else in the Let there be Light category; a second Creator. I'm not sure it would make sense. I suppose to me a God would be "That which can not be resisted". It's fairly easy to find things like that, but after one goes up the chain further and further, you (or I at least) eventually find what I would consider to be God. Who says basically the buck stops here. In Isaiah 44 [I]8 Do not fear, nor be afraid; Have I not told you from that time, and declared it? You are My witnesses. Is there a God besides Me? Indeed there is no other Rock; I know not one.’ ”[/I] Were there other Gods, one who said "Let there be Light" and another who said "Let there be Gravity" and another who said "Let there be Time" and another who said "Let there be Life"? It seems unlikely to me. Though, "Wisdom" is spoken of poetically in the Proverbs (8). But even in this (which I *think* is to be taken more poetically than literally), she is a Created being. Not an independent Creator herself, but working beside Him and in concert with Him. I'm really not sure. Maybe one day we'll get to meet. [I] 22 The Lord created me at the beginning of his work, the first of his acts of long ago. 23 Ages ago I was set up, at the first, before the beginning of the earth. 24 When there were no depths I was brought forth, when there were no springs abounding with water. 25 Before the mountains had been shaped, before the hills, I was brought forth— 26 when he had not yet made earth and fields, or the world’s first bits of soil. 27 When he established the heavens, I was there, when he drew a circle on the face of the deep, 28 when he made firm the skies above, when he established the fountains of the deep, 29 when he assigned to the sea its limit, so that the waters might not transgress his command, when he marked out the foundations of the earth, 30 then I was beside him, like a master worker; and I was daily his delight, rejoicing before him always,[/I] And in the Genesis creation story [I] And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air[/I] Which is interpreted as a pre-notion or foreshadowing of the Trinity concept later revealed. But it does support a plurality, or perhaps God doing something in concert with others. (the Trinity from the Christian perspective, or perhaps 'the host of spirit"). I would have to say, as a Christian, that the Heavenly Father, while remaining God, does appear to have a fondness for delegation. But then again, what Dad does not put his own sons to work for him? Or what King does not give his own subjects commands? [/QUOTE]
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