Are there any facts contrary to T.O.E?

[Astrid]

The way theories work is that a single contrary
fact can disprove it.

Many claim to "know" evolution is false. But no Nobel is awarded.

Does anyone have such disproof?
If not, how in good conscience can anyone say its false?

 

[Laodicean60]

The way theories work is that a single contrary
fact can disprove it.

Many claim to "know" evolution is false. But no Nobel is awarded.

Does anyone have such disproof?
If not, how in good conscience can anyone say its false?

Do you have proof that the evolution theory is true or disproof in the God theory? We all make claims of what we think are true but it all stems from a belief system. This is why I don't argue about something that happened many moons ago; we really don't know.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Do you have proof that the evolution theory is true or disproof in the God theory? We all make claims of what we think are true but it all stems from a belief system. This is why I don't argue about something that happened many moons ago; we really don't know.

Question: What is the 'God theory'?

 

[Laodicean60]

Question: What is the 'God theory'?

The existence of God.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

The existence of God.

No, I'm asking about this theory you claimed to have existed. If there's evidence for the scientific theory of it, present it.

If it not, don't bring it up as a claimed theory.

We also actually have evidence for the theory of evolution, hence why it's a theory.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Do you have proof that the evolution theory is true or disproof in the God theory? We all make claims of what we think are true but it all stems from a belief system. This is why I don't argue about something that happened many moons ago; we really don't know.

That's the thing though...the ToE isn't just what some people "think" is true. It's what observations lead us to.

The existence of God.

That's not a theory. What observations have been made that point to the existence of "God"? And what set of observations does "the existence of God" explain? Might want to start with defining what "God" actually is and how you came to know what it is.

 

[Laodicean60]

If there's evidence for the scientific theory of it, present it.

If it not, don't bring it up as a claimed theory.

What observations have been made that point to the existence of "God"?

Quantum mechanics is interesting and might give us some answers someday but our test equipment has to improve. Every human who lives and who believes in God has personal empirical evidence of what others have experienced. Like near-death experience (NDE) you have 7% of the world's population speaking of it, shall I discount whether these people are telling the truth? I don't expect natural scientists to believe because they an opposed to each other in their hypothesis.

This is why I don't argue about something that happened many moons ago; we really don't know.

Peace Out.

 

[The IbanezerScrooge]

Quantum mechanics is interesting and might give us some answers someday but our test equipment has to improve. Every human who lives and who believes in God has personal empirical evidence of what others have experienced. Like near-death experience (NDE) you have 7% of the world's population speaking of it, shall I discount whether these people are telling the truth? I don't expect natural scientists to believe because they an opposed to each other in their hypothesis.

Peace Out.

So, people believing in "God" is only explained by the actual existence of "God"? Because that would be a "Theory of God." But I'm sure even you can see the flaws in this. People believe a lot of things that can easily be shown to be untrue. Is "God" the only explanation for NDE's?

But I also want to point out that EVEN IF "God" were an accepted theory, it would not invalidate the ToE. The mere existence of "God" does not explain what we observe with regard to the ToE. There's a whole lot that has to be added and built on top of that for that to happen. And I think that's what the OP is ultimately asking. What is an observation about life on this planet that the ToE cannot explain?

 

[Astrid]

Do you have proof that the evolution theory is true or disproof in the God theory? We all make claims of what we think are true but it all stems from a belief system. This is why I don't argue about something that happened many moons ago; we really don't know.

A. By definition a theory can never proved.
B. There is no " god theory"
C. There is one way of interpreting one old book
that says god just made everything as it is.
D. Evolution is not based on " claims " about " beliefs"
someone " thunks" are true.
E. There is enough evidence to say evolution is proved beyond any reasonable doubt.

God beliefs and science are opposite.
Belief has faith, it's emotional in nature

Science is fact based. Objective in nature.
Like auto mechanics.
Auto mechanics are the same regardless of " belief sysyem".

As for many moons? Don't be too hasty.
There's a great many things we know happened- and many we know did not.

We know Antarctica was once tropical. We know dinosaurs roamed the earth.

We know there was no flood.


The thread though is about disproof of evolution.
Not opinions about "belief systems". Or "god".

 

[Astrid]

The existence of God.

It would be terrif if you'd first learn what a
scientific theory is before bringing such into
a phyical science thread.

Your post is off topic, irrelevant, and has no place here.

Please cooperate or don't post.

 

[Larniavc]

Every human who lives and who believes in God has personal empirical evidence of what others have experienced. Like near-death experience (NDE) you have 7% of the world's population speaking of it, shall I discount whether these people are telling the truth?

No they don’t and yes you should.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Quantum mechanics is interesting and might give us some answers someday but our test equipment has to improve. Every human who lives and who believes in God has personal empirical evidence of what others have experienced. Like near-death experience (NDE) you have 7% of the world's population speaking of it, shall I discount whether these people are telling the truth? I don't expect natural scientists to believe because they an opposed to each other in their hypothesis.

So you don't have any evidence for this 'God theory'. Good to know.

Peace Out.

Don't start something if you don't like people poking holes at it.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Back to the thread topic... I don't really see this going anywhere. Because I have asked the same sort of question before, and all I got out of it was:
PRATTs
Bad faith understandings of science and biology
The insipid attempt to draw the line at macro and micro evolution and the claim that such a line shows evolution to be false.
Bible verses
And everyone's favourite (sarcasm should drip off that word like molasses) poster showing his constant disregard for both Biblical readings and science and knowledge in general.

But I'm open to being proven wrong.

 

[Laodicean60]

Is "God" the only explanation for NDE's?

In the 80s when I first heard about NDE I believed the science hypoxia because it made sense. 30 years later I've watched 100s of videos since Covid and most say similar things about their experience. There are so many people that a support group was created "IANDS" because many thought they were crazy and never heard of NDE.

People believe a lot of things that can easily be shown to be untrue.

With the subject of God, how do you base your truth since natural science can neither prove nor disprove of God? I imagine it is through your own eyes that you get your beliefs. Natural science can't tell you how prayer works or even healing but people experience it. The quantum may eventually give us an explanation.

 

[Tinker Grey]

In the 80s when I first heard about NDE I believed the science hypoxia because it made sense. 30 years later I've watched 100s of videos since Covid and most say similar things about their experience. There are so many people that a support group was created "IANDS" because many thought they were crazy and never heard of NDE.

With the subject of God, how do you base your truth since natural science can neither prove nor disprove of God? I imagine it is through your own eyes that you get your beliefs. Natural science can't tell you how prayer works or even healing but people experience it. The quantum may eventually give us an explanation.

Again. This thread isn't about gods.

 

[Astrid]

In the 80s when I first heard about NDE I believed the science hypoxia because it made sense. 30 years later I've watched 100s of videos since Covid and most say similar things about their experience. There are so many people that a support group was created "IANDS" because many thought they were crazy and never heard of NDE.

With the subject of God, how do you base your truth since natural science can neither prove nor disprove of God? I imagine it is through your own eyes that you get your beliefs. Natural science can't tell you how prayer works or even healing but people experience it. The quantum may eventually give us an explanation.

You are very welcome to post but not to derail.

Thus is my last request that you post o topic or not at all.

 

[Laodicean60]

Again. This thread isn't about gods.

No, it isn't, this thread is about facts that disprove ToE. I was trying to say we don't have facts proving or disproving ToE just like we don't have scientific facts about God. We hold our own beliefs so why preach it?

You are very welcome to post but not to derail.

Thus is my last request that you post o topic or not at all.

I was answering an OT question and the answer may not be music to your ears but you should reprimand the person I was answering. Thank You

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

No, it isn't, this thread is about facts that disprove ToE. I was trying to say we don't have facts proving or disproving ToE just like we don't have scientific facts about God. We hold our own beliefs so why preach it?

Except that we do have evidence of evolution. If we didn't, there wouldn't be a theory of evolution.

 

[AV1611VET]

Does anyone have such disproof?

Missing links.

Evolution is a theory based on linkage.

Follow the trail, and you'll encounter more missing links than Carter has liver pills.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Missing links.

Evolution is a theory based on linkage.

Follow the trail, and you'll encounter more missing links than Carter has liver pills.

Except that's not really the case at all...