Are The Church Structures Now Measured Up?

[Gibs]

I have began to wonder if the Church isn’t already measured up, that is judged. We know the house of God is measured up first as we read,

Re 11:1 ¶ And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

Now we notice those outside are given forty two more months,

Re 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

Then we read this,

Re 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

These are both the same time as this is a last call to the ones outside the temple of God, Re 11: and also Re 13: the last 42 months of time given to the beast to continue.

Do we really have more than 3’½ yrs. More time? Consider this,

Re 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

Now add 3’½ years to 2015 would bring one to 6 months into the year 2019!

Reading the prophecies and the signs of the times of which few are up on as the popular media especially here in America keeps people in the dark of the skullduggery in all high places!

We learn in reading that once the deadly wound is healed the beast can only continue 42 more months!

Re 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
Re 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
Re 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.

So, has the deadly wound been healed yet? I say yes and ask you if when martyrdom begins again without recompense if it isn’t healed? Isn’t that going on again?


Of course not if you hold to the premise that the Papacy is the beast, but that premise won’t hold up. The why is because she is but the ONE head that was wounded to death. You must deal with the fact that the beast has six other heads and 10 horns with crowns showing they are the ruling kings now! The heads do not have any king power!

Yes, I submit the church structures all have been measured up and found wanting! But one remains that Jesus guaranteed and is not a structure of men that would not be prevailed against by the gates of Hell! All need to understand that only He alone could build His Church, no man or men could ever do that!

Mt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; AND THE GATES OF HELL SHALL NOT PREVAIL AGAINST IT.

His Church ALONE is the only one NOT found wanting!

The why is because He alone is it’s Head, Organizer and He does the Ordaining of it’s teachers and preachers, as He alone can know who TRULY has His spirit of Truth!

His Church has a very few in it down here now at the end! It for sure is getting down to the 144,000 that will be the number of the Saints when Jesus comes.

Remember this and know this, we are here, down to the few again, only eight then!

Lu 17:26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

Let us continually contend for the truth and the increasing True Light!

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

The structure of Rome is not only the Papal See, you have the Jesuits, the Rosecruscians, the Knights of Malta an other powerful entities that could be considered heads of the same beast.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

Also to point out that the 42 prophetic months are equal to 1260 years using the year day reckoning of prophetic time. We know this method to be correct by the prophesy of Daniel 9.

Even Wiki acknowledges this fact...

Prophecy of Seventy Weeks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That means the rest of prophetic time follows the same pattern for God is not a God of confusion.

 

[Gibs]

The beast system has 7 heads and none have crowns now in Re 13: But we now have 10 horns of this present beast system that now are the kings, crowned now, and these are the 10 powerful money men of the world who control the whole of banking, industry and set up and puppet all the rulers of the world.

These are Satan's men until He is allowed out to make his appearance as Jesus Christ in Glory and about the whole world will be deceived.

Notice what he, Satan does for these 10,

Re 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
Re 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
Re 17:14 ¶ These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Who is the beast of Re 13:11-18? Well hear EGW on this and she only leaves off verses, 11,12 and 18. So you read all from 11-18 and see if you can separate the text.

No this don't agree with what we have come to believe, so take this as you will,

In Revelation we read concerning Satan: "And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, and deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name" (Revelation 13:13-17). . . . {3SM 393.1}

Also the first beast of chapter Re 13: is not the Papacy as she is but the one head that took the deadly wound of the beast system, Note,

Re 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

We note that ONE head is wounded and then we note all the world wonders after the beast and not the wounded head.

The first beast of the chapter is Satan's NWO system that he began to raise up out of the sea of peoples around 1798.

It is Satan's image beast as it too has 7 heads and 10 horns as he the great red dragon does.

 

[Gibs]

Also to point out that the 42 prophetic months are equal to 1260 years using the year day reckoning of prophetic time. We know this method to be correct by the prophesy of Daniel 9.

Even Wiki acknowledges this fact...

Prophecy of Seventy Weeks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That means the rest of prophetic time follows the same pattern for God is not a God of confusion.

The year for a day don't apply for prophecies after the 2300 year one and so the 42 months of Re 13: and Re 11: are literal time or is 3'1/2 years.

The times of the prophecies of Re 13: and Re 11: are yet future and now very near future!

Daniel saw these 1260 days and then 1290 and then 1335 but John wasn't shown the 1290 and 1335 days so we must conclude that God has shortened the time 75 days at the very end for the elect's sake!

Mr 13:20 And except that the Lord had shortened those days, no flesh should be saved: but for the elect's sake, whom he hath chosen, he hath shortened the days.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

The year for a day don't apply for prophecies after the 2300 year one

You are correct... however, the 2300 year prophesy ended in 1844 while the other prophesies, 1260, 1290, 1335 ended before 1844. There has been no prophetic reckoning of time since 1844.

 

[Gibs]

You are correct... however, the 2300 year prophesy ended in 1844 while the other prophesies, 1260, 1290, 1335 ended before 1844. There has been no prophetic reckoning of time since 1844.

No, not all are the 1260 prophecies ended 1798 as the 42 months of Re. 11: begins when the what is called church by the world is measured up, that is judged and found wanting, and then the last 42 months of time is given in Re 13: to lay out the Gospel to those outside of Christendom. The church structures of men think they are the temple of God, each claiming to be the mountain of God or the church. I find they are now measured up now and found wanting!

Re 11:1 ¶ And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.
Re 11:2 But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given unto the Gentiles: and the holy city shall they tread under foot forty and two months.

The 144,000 will be these witnesses!,

Notice "SERVANTS" in this verse!

Re[bless and do not curse]7:3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Re 11:3 ¶ And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

And no don't come back that Re 11: is the French Revolution, as the first two verses of the chapter annul that. That was not even a good application of the prophecy let along the fulfillment.

To Re 13:, the 42 months begin here when the deadly wound is healed and that is when Martyrdom begins again without recompense.

That is happening, however who can say if any or all are considered of God to be His. The way I see it is that for one to stand up for Jesus to the death they are truly dedicated whether they have all things right or not.

I find the 42 months of Re 11: and Re 13: to be the last 42 months of time.

Take it as you see it, but do rationalize the scriptures and we will soon who is laying it out in error.

Now, Daniel's prophecy here is now unsealed as we are at the end and most of Adventism don't see it as they are rich and in need of nothing when they are in need of everything!

Da 12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

Note! the time, times and a half, Dan is told ALL things are finished! Then we notice in the next verse Dan don't understand as he wasn't thinking of the time of the end yet.

Da 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

Da 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
Da 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

Now John don't see these following days but Dan is seeing the ones making it to the end of these is the Blessed ones.

We noticed above in verse 7 that all things are finished and so it is reasonable that God could shorten the time down to the 42 months of literal time of which it must be as it is very clear that this is the consummation. God is showing Dan the time of the end!

Da 12:11 And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.
Da 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.
Da 12:13 But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days.

I leave it with any who will consider these things.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

I espouse pioneer Adventist doctrine and cannot continue to debate with your spurious understandings of scripture. I pray that you will come to a right understanding of these things quickly as time is fast running out.

 

[Gibs]

I espouse pioneer Adventist doctrine and cannot continue to debate with your spurious understandings of scripture. I pray that you will come to a right understanding of these things quickly as time is fast running out.

Adventism has died as they have not taken up any increasing light since the light of 1882 and it is doubtful they have taken it up.

Today's Adventism has been weighed in the balances and found wanting with all the other structures men call churches.

All such attempts of men to build God His Church were doomed to fall as they become it's head, setting up a head man and each do then the organizing and then they claim to ordain and that is to any that have gone through their schools and hold to their creed statement.

Not so with Christ's Church He established on Himself, the Chief Cornerstone,

Mt 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

His guaranteed it not to fall to the gates of hell, He gave us His Word and that will not and does not fail.

No need of any of the reform structures to ever be attempted of men as ALL starting with the first fall away into apostasy needed to have done was to go and get in the One and Only True Church He Guaranteed the apostates fell from!

His is the One and Only One that is truly Church as no man can build God His Church.

EGW told her older sister the truth of this matter,


God has a church. It is not the great cathedral, neither is it the national establishment, neither is it the various denominations; it is the people who love God and keep His commandments. "Where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them" (Matthew 18:20). Where Christ is even among the humble few, this is Christ's church, for the presence of the High and Holy One who inhabiteth eternity can alone constitute a church. {UL 315.5}

Where two or three are present who love and obey the commandments of God, Jesus there presides, let it be in the desolate place of the earth, in the wilderness, in the city enclosed in prison walls. The glory of God has penetrated the prison walls, flooding with glorious beams of heavenly light the darkest dungeon. His saints may suffer, but their sufferings will, like the apostles of old, spread their faith and win souls to Christ and glorify His holy name. The bitterest opposition expressed by those who hate God's great moral standard of righteousness should not and will not shake the steadfast soul who trusts fully in God. . . . {UL 315.6}

They that will be doers of the word are building securely, and the tempest and storm of persecution will not shake their foundation, because their souls are rooted to the eternal Rock.--Letter 108, Oct. 28, 1886, to her older sister and her husband who had not accepted the Sabbath truth. {UL 315.7}

EGW fought Masonry in Adventism to no avail, today only the LDS have more Masons.

It is time to come out of the box, God says,

Re 18:4 And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
Re 18:5 For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

Just a further note, in the Greek His Church is Ekklesia and means the called out!