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Are Some Prayers An Exercise In Futility?

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I'm more of a board gamer with friends.
In my country, the men are hooked into mobile MOBA games that are very time intensive and most certainly addictive. I've played one for a year and that's why I know how much it wastes time and fortunately, I lost interest.
 
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We used to play a bingo game together and my mother joined in and it was fun. My daughter and I were on a team and the competitions were fierce. But it was evident by the level of time and spending the app was monopolizing people’s lives. The spending was out of hand and well into the thousands and I remembered a quote Yuval Harari made at WEF that encouraged me to quit.

He acknowledged their purpose was distraction and a method for killing time for useless people. And while that’s horrible to say he was telling the truth and I saw the same in financial circles. I told my daughter we’re supposed to invest in these tools not partake and we stopped.

I’m not opposed to board or card games or video to some degree within reason. An hour or so of play is fine. But when you’re losing most of the day that’s a problem.

~bella
 
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It's crazy how wasting people's time is a lucrative business. I suppose it's like selling drugs. Many people also do this on social media platforms as influencers with time-wasting content that doesn't add value to anyone.

I still play a simple blocks game app with mom. Not more than 15 mins a day. The objective is simply beat each other's high score.

their purpose was distraction and a method for killing time for useless people
Or turning useful people into useless people.

But when you’re losing most of the day that’s a problem.
It's not just video games. Men can be very involved with hobbies and even fiercely protective of them. I used to have the same problem. But I started losing interest in everything but a few things.
 
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It's crazy how wasting people's time is a lucrative business. I suppose it's like selling drugs. Many people also do this on social media platforms as influencers with time-wasting content that doesn't add value to anyone.

It was really bizarre and I understand why companies are investing heavily. Competitive players spend a lot and being on a team is like a second job. They’ve captured their attention and the platforms are milking it by offering perks in the beginning and reducing them over time while raising prices.

I saw the same with physical games. We were huge fans of The Sims and had several editions and expansion packs. But every update included a little less which required another purchase. By the third release I was done. The fourth was gutted and I refused to support the company anymore.

I grew up with Atari and Nintendo and my mother used to take us to the game room and played as well. There were two consoles that came before Atari that we used to play as well. I understand the draw but I’ve seen the same unfold in other areas online. Watching people get sucked into worthless things or destroy their lives keeps you levelheaded.

As for influencers, it was never a draw and my business coach warned us against it. The majority aren’t entrepreneurs in the traditional sense with products and the like. They work for brands and the bulk of their income is derived from pushing their products. But budget cuts can reduce their earnings significantly. We witnessed this with pride day campaigns.

Influencer content comes in three varieties: aspirational, informational and entertainment. All of the channels I follow are educational and I’m always learning something or increasing my proficiency. I’m not into escapism and I was late to YouTube. I don’t look at Tik-Tok, Instagram or X.

Or turning useful people into useless people.

If you take what he said at face value it isn’t possible. The human spirit is resilient when applied. If Ai eliminated jobs a portion of those impacted will seek alternatives. But the ones who don’t are the people he’s referring to. Their willingness to accept government support in place of employment is problematic from their perspective. Because work is a spiritual act at its core. The free time won’t allow them to do xyz and we saw that with covid. The people who used that period productively were doing it elsewhere. That’s the society they want.

It's not just video games. Men can be very involved with hobbies and even fiercely protective of them. I used to have the same problem. But I started losing interest in everything but a few things.

I heartily support hobbies and don’t believe a relationship should be anyone’s orbit. That position belongs to God and the kingdom is inclusive. We’re meant to impact our home, church, community and so on. When the pairing is balanced you welcome those opportunities.

Time with God.
Time with your spouse.
Time with your children.
Time with your family.
Time with friends.
Time with believers.
Time with neighbors and the community.

But that’s predicted on the principle of seeking the kingdom first (step one) and its righteousness (step two) that establishes our priority. Which is the governing influence of heaven on earth in everything and the right alignment/positioning with its authority. That‘s our compass. Once we comply the “rest” will be added. We were never meant to pursue it.

~bella
 
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They're exploiting a human weakness irresponsibly. The need to get somewhere or to be "seen". Something that's may not be easy to accomplish in the real world outside of the game or internet.

This is why people also get addicted to social media. And also because our world rewards irresponsible behavior.


I realized it early on and felt the practice too devious for my taste. I just hope more people realize that.

I'm youtube-only as well. I prefer watching / following influencers with relatively low views in their content (Less than 20k views per video). The quality and "connection" is better.

Influencers who have reached "viral" status or have lots of viral content seem to let the quality go (from an objective perspective) and start behaving like someone losing touch with reality.

The influencer space seems to reward the dumbest/mindless contents the most.

I don't think this is going to happen any time soon. I've used LLMs at work, and mostly google Gemini which seems to be the best at it. The quality of human work is still better than AI work. AI can do the work at a small fraction of the cost but quality goes down the drain.

I have more faith of the "exploit" I found will bring much bigger changes to the world and individual quality of life than AI. Ironically, even AI technology will massively benefit from it.


My main hobby now is skating but I avoid spending any time outside of the activity itself like researching upgrades etc. I even stopped learning new skills (just enough to be good at it) to save even more time. I now treat it as pure exercise and social activity (meeting other skaters on Sundays for only 2 hrs). It doesn't eat on my time at all because I really do need the exercise for health. Just enough to stay in shape.

I still play games where there's absolutely nothing else I can do like I'm outside and not talking to anyone and unable to work. Simple games on my phone that children might be also be playing. These games don't tend to be addictive because it's usually single player.

You're absolutely right what you said there. People tend to get lost in their hobbies, especially men. Maybe I'm only seeing this contrast in my country in Asia. Women are much less likely to play around and more mature/responsible and men tend to be the problem in relationships. It's the same pattern in both rich and poor but richer couples seem to have worse problems with infidelity and substance abuse, gambling, gaming, etc.
 
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They're exploiting a human weakness irresponsibly. The need to get somewhere or to be "seen". Something that's may not be easy to accomplish in the real world outside of the game or internet.

I think the majority are bored or lonely and games fill that void.

This is why people also get addicted to social media. And also because our world rewards irresponsible behavior.

Social media is largely dependent on the person using it. That determines your experience. If you want to learn and exchange discourse with likeminded people you can. If your motivations are primarily empty you’ll find that too.

The world doesn’t reward folly. Public figures are encouraged to be foolish but they’re compensated and playing a role. When viewers follow suit they have different results.


Everything you see in this medium is a reflection of what exists outside of it. Mindless content is popular because people crave it. Unlike television we’re able to see what they prefer by the views. You can go viral on different topics even serious ones. It’s just a matter of connecting with the audience.


I think human work is better in most instances but I also believe they haven’t demonstrated its full abilities. New concepts are usually dripped out much like content to build interest. But behind closed doors its more advanced. There were films from the 70s depicting things we have today.

That point was driven home by the chair of the federal reserve. He said they’ve been working on digital currency since the nineties. There’s an issue from economist magazine in 1988 announcing its arrival.

I have more faith of the "exploit" I found will bring much bigger changes to the world and individual quality of life than AI. Ironically, even AI technology will massively benefit from it.

Most people are accustomed to ease and will seek it out. We’re seeing it now and they’ll allow it to think for them. Ideas and creativity are the new currency.


Most of the players on the bingo game were women. It was designed for them in my opinion. I noticed the same on another game where you had to find hidden objects in a scene. That wasn’t the case long ago and I suspect the diminishment of friendships is the cause.

Women don’t usually neglect their partner or family over hobbies. You’re more likely to see that with men. Wealthy couples have different struggles. You need someone who’s levelheaded with self-control and I emphasize the latter for that reason. The opportunities to indulge vices is greater and if you can’t rein yourself in you’ll go too far.

Faith alone isn’t enough and that probably sounds bad. But you need a moral compass in tow. If you don’t believe its wrong you’ll give in eventually. That’s what helps you resist temptation when your guard is down. You have to be ethical before it arrives. You’ll rarely become a better person morally with means. It amplifies what exists.

~bella
 
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