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Are protestants going to heaven?

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These are the sorts of questions I don't get (and never have) in my journey from Catholicism and back.

All those who believe in Jesus Christ as our Saviour, who place their faith in Him, believe in Him, can state so, who believe in what the Creed states, will go to Heaven.

What does denomination have to do with it? I honestly don't understand.:confused:
 
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blackwasp said:
Do catholics believe that "born-again" protestants will go to heaven? I've read numerous posts that talk about "working out your salvation", and realize that this is quite different than my belief of irresistable grace. Does the catholic catechism address this?


Actually my friend, it isn't just Catholics who say it your friend and my friend : St. Paul.

Paul talks about working out "...salvation in fear and trembling."

As one person noted in this forum, if St. Paul was afraid, I'm even more so...

Rom. 2:6-10, 13 - God will judge every man according to his works. Our salvation depends on how we cooperate with God's grace.

2 Cor. 5:10 - at the judgment Seat of Christ, we are judged according to what we have done, not how much faith we had.

2 Cor. 11:15 - our end will correspond to our deeds. Our works are necessary to both our justification and salvation.
 
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Blackwasp - while we do not believe in OSAS, we do NOT believe that Protestants are barred from Heaven. Basically, the Catholic teaching is that if you truly KNOW and recognize the truth of the Church, and then reject it - you are rejecting Truth itself, and God's plan for you. But if your honest impression of the Catholic Church is that it is false, and you have sincerely desired to know and love Our Lord, trying to do the will of God as your conscience dictates - you can be saved. WE call this "invincible ignorance." We do not believe in assurance of salvation - it is God's decision, but we trust in his Divine Mercy. I am pretty sure that this is the Catholic view but if not someone please correct me.
 
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catholicboy said:
only God knows that... pointless debate if you ask me. i am not saying it is a stupid question. i just think it is a non-issue...

God bless!

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I have to disagree with you there catholicboy. Matters of salvation are far from being "non-issues" they are the only issue!
All that we do in our Christian walk is in hope and faith of salvation. Therefore, these discussions are most important!

That said, I will briefly describe the Catholic position on salvation. First of all, never has the church ever satated that any person has gone or will go to hell. The Church recognizes that it's mission is not one of judgement but one of evangelization. The Catholic belief is that protestants can indeed go to heaven. However, salvation is more difficult to attain the further from the fullness of truth one moves.

By analogy, one might be able to navigate a treacherous ravine by the light of a candle, but their chances of safe passage will be much greater by the light of the sun.

For instance, this idea of irresistable grace to which you subscribe, does in many people blind them to the importance of acting on their faith. That's not to say that these actions somehow earn them their salvation, but such acts do incur merit which helps a person to grow in sanctity and holiness. Additionally, the idea of salvation being something that cannot, once attained, be lost, blinds many to the devastating nature of sin and makes people completely unaware that the sins they continue to commit are moving them further and further away from God. Even worse, it causes many who believed they were saved, and then fall back into sin (as we all do) that they were never really saved at all!

Doctrines such as these present difficulties which lead men (and women) to sin and not seek the forgiveness Christ provided through his church in the sacrament of pennance. In these ways, man is blinded, bound, and confused about a great many things which present real danger to one's salvation.

In closing, yes, the church believes that baptized protestants can obtain salvation and die in a state of grace. However, this is an arduous task fraught with more difficulties than one fortified with the sacraments, and fullness of truth presented by the Church.
 
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ps139 said:
Blackwasp - while we do not believe in OSAS, we do NOT believe that Protestants are barred from Heaven. Basically, the Catholic teaching is that if you truly KNOW and recognize the truth of the Church, and then reject it - you are rejecting Truth itself, and God's plan for you. But if your honest impression of the Catholic Church is that it is false, and you have sincerely desired to know and love Our Lord, trying to do the will of God as your conscience dictates - you can be saved. WE call this "invincible ignorance." We do not believe in assurance of salvation - it is God's decision, but we trust in his Divine Mercy. I am pretty sure that this is the Catholic view but if not someone please correct me.

You hit the nail on the head, and in a nutshell. Wish I could do that.
 
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blackwasp said:
Do catholics believe that "born-again" protestants will go to heaven? I've read numerous posts that talk about "working out your salvation", and realize that this is quite different than my belief of irresistable grace. Does the catholic catechism address this?

Non-Catholics can be saved if they are under invincible ignorance...meaning you don't know any better. If you fight against the Church Jesus established out of stubborn pride or whatever, then you are not listening to Jesus, thus, you don't follow Him.

"He who hears you hears me."
 
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