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I don't have to show that the writers are who they say they are or whether or not they have given their scribes the words to use in their books as the early followers of Christ did that for us.
I was posting those links as a starting point for anybody who might be interested in this issue of authorship. If you aren't interested then that is fine. There is no smoking gun. The scholars have differing opinions. An interested person must read and form his/her own opinion. The Wikipedia articles only summarize the opinions of different scholars. To understand why those scholars have this or that opinion, a person would need to read even more.I am not going to go through all these to hunt for some actual proof of forgery. If there is proof in any of the links you supplied please copy and paste it and provide from which link it originates.
The churches that were formed shortly after Christ's death that the Apostles started.Who is the "early church?"
Yes, and they could read more and still find that there is no "smoking gun"...nothing that provides any confirmation of forgery.I was posting those links as a starting point for anybody who might be interested in this issue of authorship. If you aren't interested then that is fine. There is no smoking gun. The scholars have differing opinions. An interested person must read and form his/her own opinion. The Wikipedia articles only summarize the opinions of different scholars. To understand why those scholars have this or that opinion, a person would need to read even more.
Why is it outlandish?
Yes, and they could read more and still find that there is no "smoking gun"...nothing that provides any confirmation of forgery.
Only to those who view life in a secular, anti-religious or materialistic way.She's an outlandish gal.
What many of the faithful don't understand, is that they can't hand wave the evidence, without first explaining why the reasons they consider these to not be forgeries, when it's the same criteria used to determine other historical forgeries as well.I was posting those links as a starting point for anybody who might be interested in this issue of authorship. If you aren't interested then that is fine. There is no smoking gun. The scholars have differing opinions. An interested person must read and form his/her own opinion. The Wikipedia articles only summarize the opinions of different scholars. To understand why those scholars have this or that opinion, a person would need to read even more.
Only to those who view life in a secular, anti-religious or materialistic way.
What many of the faithful don't understand, is that they can't hand wave the evidence, without first explaining why the reasons they consider these to not be forgeries, when it's the same criteria used to determine other historical forgeries as well.
Hey, you're free to believe what you need to. No ones trying to make you forsake your religious dogma. Instead, maybe you can listen to the reasons scholars consider these, and other writings to be forgeries. Actually, these are not shocking claims, even within Christian circles.Amen.
Hey, you're free to believe what you need to. No ones trying to make you forsake your religious dogma. Instead, maybe you can listen to the reasons scholars consider these, and other writings to be forgeries. Actually, these are not shocking claims, even within Christian circles.
As a piece of literary work, it's only meh. There are better works of fiction in existence.
That is true, and that is why the question in my OP was a hypothetical. Assume that we found some evidence that persuaded you that one of these NT books was a forgery. Would you continue to treat that NT book as inspired scripture? The Lord works in mysterious ways, so couldn't He breath some important messages into a forgery - even though the forger is attempting to deceive the reader for his own carnal reasons? Books of the NT canon were inspected for possible heresies, so the forged book would not contain heresies. Maybe a forgery can be as useful as a non-forgery.Yes, and they could read more and still find that there is no "smoking gun"...nothing that provides any confirmation of forgery.
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