I would love to hear your story. Interest in this subject as a teen lead to my becoming a Christian. You may also discuss experiences that others have shared with you.
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I would love to hear your story. Interest in this subject as a teen lead to my becoming a Christian. You may also discuss experiences that others have shared with you.
Nobody goes to heaven or hell at death.
Our dead loved ones cannot come back and talk to us.
Eccl 9:5 "The dead know not anything".
Ps 146:4 - "in that very day their thoughts perish".
Matt 22 "God is not the god of the dead".
We (our souls) survive the first death in the dormant state.
John 11 "Our friend Lazarus sleeps - I go that I may wake him"
The danger of going against God's word on this -- is illustrated in detail here -
Roger Morneau A Trip Into The Supernatural (full testimony) - YouTube
Jesus gives him a tour of four different dimensions in the afterlife. They both fly toward a large city on Earth where they notice a group of assembly-line workers at work. He witnesses the spirit of a woman trying desperately to obtain a cigarette from the workers who are oblivious to her presence. This woman died severely addicted to cigarettes.
In a house, Jesus shows him the spirit of a boy following a living teenage girl and begging for forgiveness while the girl is completely unaware of the boy's presence. Jesus tells George that the boy committed suicide and is "chained to every consequence of his act."
Jesus shows George a bar filled with sailors who are heavily drinking. Spirits try desperately and in vain to get a drink or to control the sailors' alcoholic behavior. These spirits are from humans who die severely alcoholic. He is horrified as he observes a drunken sailor pass out and an alcoholic spirit jump into the body of the sailor.
Jesus takes him to a new dimension away from Earth and shows him a kind of "receiving station" where spirits would arrive in a deep hypnotic sleep because of their beliefs. These are spirits who believe they must sleep after death until Jesus returns.
Jesus shows him a dimension where angry spirits are locked in hand-to-hand combat, trying in vain to hurt each other. He hears verbal abuse going on. He observes some trying in vain to get sexual gratification from each other. He also sees spirits arguing over some religious or political point and trying to kill the ones who did not agree with them. Here, he realizes he is seeing hell. These are spirits who are locked into some earthly desire that went beyond the physical and which cannot be satisfied in the spirit.
He is then taken to a different dimension appearing like an enormous university. Here he observes people dressed as monks engaged in some form of artistic behavior or research. He is taken into an enormous library where all the important books of the universe are assembled. He asks Jesus if this is heaven. He replies that these are the people who grew beyond selfish desires while on Earth. George realizes these people cannot see Jesus, just as the others could not see him in hell.
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth; ) such an one caught up to the third heaven.
And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth; )
How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.
My near death experience.I would love to hear your story. Interest in this subject as a teen lead to my becoming a Christian. You may also discuss experiences that others have shared with you.
Nice thread.
I don't at all doubt the stories, but the theology taught by "Jesus" in them can sometimes be very different from what we read in the NT. Be careful.
For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable [are] his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
[6] For my angel is with you: And I myself will demand an account of your souls.
My near death experience.
When I was 16 years old I was driving my dad's car on an icy road in the country on Thanksgiving Day. I lost control of the car and it rolled over. I wasn't wearing a seatbelt, this was many years ago. I nearly died, but I came out of that accident without a single scratch. The car was a total wreck. That's my near death experience. What do you think?
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