Antichrist

[gracechick]

I have heard and read a bit about the country of origin of the antichrist. So I'm throwing out the question "Which country do you believe him to come out of and could he be born in one country and then become a citizine of an EU one?

 

[Tissue]

In my opinion, it's a pretty pointless effort to try to discern what country the anti-Christ will come from. It's very possible that the events mentioned in Revelation will not occur for another thousand years, and if that is the case, the national landscape of the world will look far different.

 

[phoenixgw]

Javier Solana of Spain is the #1 choice of eschatologists. He is the one that drafted WEU recommendation 666 that created the position of High Representative, a title he holds along with Secretary General. Solana has the power in a crisis situation to dispatch armies and even remove heads of state.

Daniel 9:27 places Solana as the one who confirms a covenant with many (the ENP) and includes entitling Israel to perform animal sacrifice even though no legitimate sacrifices have been performed since 70 AD.

http://www.evenmore.co.uk/prophecy/antichrist.html

 

[gracechick]

It seems that these world altering decrees are made without even a whimper of protest or reporting from the press. How can that be?
Hmmm I wonder if the anticonspiracy crowd will finally listen now?

 

[Tissue]

It's unlikely. The 'conspiracy' crowd, as popularly understood, is in the 0.0001% of the world's population, and is filled with an intense paranoia. They're good for a cover story every once in awhile when they do something particularly crazy, but for the most part, they're just ignored.

 

[phoenixgw]

The "conspiracy crowd" can be divided into 2 camps; one is the Alex Jones Infowars crowd and the other is end-time prophecy watchers. The former say "The sky is falling" while the latter say, "The Antichrist is coming!"
http://www.infowars.com/

There is a website forum devoted almost entirely to end-time prophecy.
http://www.fulfilledprophecy.com/ goes into detail about about the 70 sevens prophecy (Daniel 9), the ENP agreement, the UN Alliance of Civilizations document, the Club of Rome, the Lamb/Dragon and Leopard/Bear/Lion beasts (they have a bit of a blind spot on those), Javier Solana, the 10 toes of the restored Roman Empire (the WEU), signs of the end times, signs of Apostasy, etcetera, etc.

"Be careful, or your hearts will be weighed down with dissipation, drunkenness and the anxieties of life, and that day will close on you unexpectedly like a trap. For it will come upon all those who live on the face of the whole earth. Be always on the watch, and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man" (Luke 21:34-36).

 

[barryrob]

I have heard and read a bit about the country of origin of the antichrist. So I'm throwing out the question "Which country do you believe him to come out of and could he be born in one country and then become a citizine of an EU one?

The Bible says that there are many Antichtists in the past and now:-


1 John 2:18
Young children, it is the last hour, and, just as YOU have heard that antichrist is coming, even now there have come to be many antichrists; from which fact we gain the knowledge that it is the last hour.

 

[X=?]

People are born in many countries yet their hearts lie in another nation and they feel at home in that nation even though they were born in a completely different one.

So to say they are from the EU would be one thing even though they felt they belonged in another. This could be direct descendancy or historical.

 

[hiscosmicgoldfish]

I have heard and read a bit about the country of origin of the antichrist. So I'm throwing out the question "Which country do you believe him to come out of and could he be born in one country and then become a citizine of an EU one?

I think the antichrist will be from Djibouti.

 

[one11]

I hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings by saying this. But, I realized we should not suspect anyone of being the antichrist because we could be judging someone unfairly and that would be a sin, wouldn't it?

So I think we should all stop guessing because a guess is a guess and could falsely accuse someone.

I say stop doing this "guessing".

 

[hiscosmicgoldfish]

I hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings by saying this. But, I realized we should not suspect anyone of being the antichrist because we could be judging someone unfairly and that would be a sin, wouldn't it?

So I think we should all stop guessing because a guess is a guess and could falsely accuse someone.

I say stop doing this "guessing".

True, judge not and ye shall not be judged, i think it goes.

 

[barryrob]

I hope I don't hurt anyone's feelings by saying this. But, I realized we should not suspect anyone of being the antichrist because we could be judging someone unfairly and that would be a sin, wouldn't it?

So I think we should all stop guessing because a guess is a guess and could falsely accuse someone.

I say stop doing this "guessing".

The scriptures make it quite plain who and what the antichrists are and anyone who is a christian MUST not get involved with them, but if you do not know what to look for how do you do that?

 

[vinsight4u]

John was shown a king that was.

beast (was and is not)



The OT refers to Nebuchadnezzar as the yoke of iron.
Jeremiah 28:14 - and Jeremiah 30:6-9 (refers to when a yoke gets broken, time of Jacob's trouble).



Zechariah 5 shows that a house - a palace must again rise in Shinar.
This palace will eventually get consumed - as to even the timber and the stones of it.

because the place that earned the 20 by 10 curse on its land - is Shinar
Shinar - under Nebuchadnezzar destroyed the temple of God - at the place of His name (His holy site place that was 20 by 10 cubits for the porch/entryway)

 

[vinsight4u]

We can also know that the man of sin must come from Iraq -

because the land of Babylon

has not yet done what this prophecy says,

Jeremiah 25:11


The Babylonian kings - from Nebuchadnezzar to the last one - was from 605 B.C. to 539 B.C. - so less than 70 years.

 

[barryrob]

We can also know that the man of sin must come from Iraq -

because the land of Babylon

has not yet done what this prophecy says,

Jeremiah 25:11


The Babylonian kings - from Nebuchadnezzar to the last one - was from 605 B.C. to 539 B.C. - so less than 70 years.

Sorry, ”Babylon the Great” today is Christendom and Pagandom as they follow the same religious ideas as the ancient Babylonians. e.g The Cross = Tammuz; Fish sign = Dagon; Cresent Moon = Sin; Halo = Sun God; Immortal Soul = most pagan religions; etc. etc..

 

[vinsight4u]

Jeremiah 51 - towards the end of the chapter - shows that all the words are for one place - Babylon on the Euphrates River.


51:62
"...O LORD, thou hast spoken against this place, to cut if off, that none shall remain in it, neither man nor beast, but that it shall be desolate for ever."

v60
"...wrote in a book all the evil that should come upon Babylon, [even] all these words that are written against Babylon."