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Antarctic Ice Increasing
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No point really. Just presenting contrary evidence of depletion of ice there. As I understand it, the region that is losing ice is also an area of volcanic vents.
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Are you sure? Because it sounds like you don't believe in global warming...
If it's true, great news that the Antarctic is growing!
Personally, I'll wait for some more sources to confirm the story before I reach a conclusion though.
- Ectezus
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What's global warming?
Is that where all the ice in the oceans are supposed to melt and wipe us all out in a flood, despite the fact that when you put an ice cube in a glass of water, and it melts, the water level actually goes down, not up?
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Split Rock
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Actually, the volume does not change, AVET. The problem is not with ice on the ocean (such as the northern ice sheet) it is with the ice sheets on the land (Antarctica). Antarctica is a continent, therefore the glaciers on Antartica are on land, not water. When the ice melts off the land, it enters into the ocean and raises its level. Make sense now?
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The ice of Antarctica is on land. A correct analogy would be putting ice on a plate tilted toward your glass and watching it melt. The water level will certainly rise. Reality is even worse than the analogy since in the analogy some of the water might spill onto the counter rather than enter the glass. There are only two places the melting ice in Antarctica can go: The air, due to evaporation, and the ocean.
ETA: Or what Split Rock said.
ETA: Or what Split Rock said.
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Thank you, sir --- but I have to interject here --- God promised never to flood the earth again like in Noah's time:
Genesis 9:15 said:
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Be that as it may, AV -- if the glaciers are melting, even in part, due to man-made global warming, then it's not God doing it, is it?
According to the Bible, God only said He'd never flood us again -- not that He'd ever stop us from doing it to ourselves.
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First of all, in my opinion, global warming is a myth --- second of all, the Bible says how this world is going to end, and I can assure you, it's not from anything you "scientists" can dream up.
So while this near-faithless generation [now] is shivering in its shoes wondering if we're gonna drown, freeze to death, or get blown to pieces by the next asteroid that comes within view of someone's telescope, we Christians will just tuck our comfy selves in bed, knowing that God has the final say.
It's interesting that "scientists" today are talking about us drowning, when Jesus said the last days will be indicative of Noah's time.
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Split Rock
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I am soooo glad that we scientists are being heard, instead of Evangelicals who say,"Don't worry... we'll be raptured before the end anyway. No need to worry about teh consequences of global warming, or a collision with an asteroid. Let's not waste the time and money on that stuff."
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Your opinion is noted -- and irrelevent.
I know it's a whole other level of "dreaming up." But it would be a pity if the human race went and did something stupid to ourselves, destroying the planet before God gets the chance to do it, wouldn't it?
It must be comforting for Christians to take comfort in their own impotence. Having no power means having no responsibility.
Ah, but you just pointed out that Jesus was wrong, then -- God isn't going to let us drown, is He?
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That's actually a good question, AV -- for someone who claims to be God's favorites, Evangelicals are surprisingly inconsequential. Why bother?
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Well shin, one reason to have doubts about human involvement is that earth temperatures go up and down like the stock market. Since the end of the last glacial advance the boreal forest like in manitoba nad been down into Tennessee, and likewise with mixed hardwood forest that advanced up into canada. why was that?
Why has the been an ice age at all? Why the advances and retreats? i dont think anyone really knows. Now, IF there is actually a significant shift in climate going on, who is to say it would not happen if there was not person one on earth?
I dont claim to know why or ig there is global warming.. I cant do anything about it, i have other things to think about.
I just dont think its a slam dunk anymore than were the WMDs of Saddam the H.
Why has the been an ice age at all? Why the advances and retreats? i dont think anyone really knows. Now, IF there is actually a significant shift in climate going on, who is to say it would not happen if there was not person one on earth?
I dont claim to know why or ig there is global warming.. I cant do anything about it, i have other things to think about.
I just dont think its a slam dunk anymore than were the WMDs of Saddam the H.
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Yea I agree. The way I see it is that you have to ask yourself a few questions:
1) Do you think humans have influence on nature on this planet?
Probably everyone will say yes to this one.
2) Do you think that influence is positive or negative?
Once again, probably everyone will say negative.
3) The next question is about the amount of negative (or positive) impact.
This is where you can argue whether global warming is really bad or not.
But if you've already established that we have a negative impact (no matter how small) on this Earth. I really don't see why anyone would object to an anti-polution kind of attitude.
Sure global warming potentially might be overrated. Maybe it won't cause a flood or ice age. But how is lowering CO2 emmisions and other polution ever a bad thing? We have an oblige to our children to hand this Earth over in good health.
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