Another snake found with feet and toes

Aron-Ra · Sep 24, 2006

But this one isn't a fossil. Its still alive!
http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-9-20/46166.html

Sometimes, an old evolutionary trait sort of "pops up" again, like humans born with tails or chickens with teeth. That's the only possible explanation for this two-foot snake.

AnEmpiricalAgnostic · Sep 24, 2006

Its still a snake kind! Its just adapting not evolving! A snake never gave birth to a lizard kind! Umm and the lord works in mysterious ways!

Thanks for the post Aron. A pleasure as always.

Chalnoth · Sep 24, 2006

Apparently this snake decided to disobey God's curse

JohnR7 · Sep 24, 2006

Chalnoth said:
Apparently this snake decided to disobey God's curse

Why is that? It still slithers on it's belly

combatant · Sep 24, 2006

Did snakes never have feet in the front?

TeddyKGB · Sep 24, 2006

combatant said:
Did snakes never have feet in the front?

No, but a snake ancestor did.

combatant · Sep 24, 2006

TeddyKGB said:
No, but a snake ancestor did.

Prove it

dawiyd · Sep 24, 2006

combatant said:
Prove it

Najash Rionegrina

I would go into it futher but I doubt you would listen anyway.

I'm sure if you care that much you would go do your own research from what I have given you as a starter.

Dragon02 · Sep 24, 2006

combatant said:
Prove it

Refer to the OP.

random_guy · Sep 24, 2006

Aron-Ra said:
But this one isn't a fossil. Its still alive!
http://www.theepochtimes.com/news/6-9-20/46166.html

Sometimes, an old evolutionary trait sort of "pops up" again, like humans born with tails or chickens with teeth. That's the only possible explanation for this two-foot snake.

That's a cool story. Hopefully, scientists can start figuring how this happened, and what mutations in the DNA caused this. It would be due to the Hox genes, right?

Chalnoth · Sep 24, 2006

random_guy said:
That's a cool story. Hopefully, scientists can start figuring how this happened, and what mutations in the DNA caused this. It would be due to the Hox genes, right?

The hox genes themselves, or something else that regulates the expression of said genes, I'm sure.

JohnR7 · Sep 24, 2006

Chalnoth said:
The hox genes themselves, or something else that regulates the expression of said genes, I'm sure.

I think they call that the distal-less gene. Because if you block it's expression you end up with something that has no limbs. Or a fly with a leg growing out of it's head. Also the distal gene in part controls things like the pattern on the wings of a butterfly.

JohnR7 · Sep 24, 2006

Aron-Ra said:
Sometimes, an old evolutionary trait sort of "pops up" again,

Pops up again? It is a question of what is being expressed and what is not being expressed. It could be that something is actually blocking their expression.

Nothing has changed in 500,000 years, it has all remained pretty much the same. Esp when it comes to bilaterin evolution.

The study, based on fossils discovered in southern China, pushes the existence of bilaterians - animals that possess the same anatomical symmetry that defines most modern animals, including humans - back to about 600 million years ago, said David Bottjer, one of the studys lead researchers and a professor of earth sciences at the University of Southern California. http://www.usc.edu/uscnews/stories/10275.html

Self Improvement · Sep 24, 2006

This is obviously a conspiracy being carried out by the atheist Chinese.

Aron-Ra · Sep 24, 2006

Self Improvement said:
This is obviously a conspiracy being carried out by the atheist Chinese.

And of course the inevitable response from the creationist front is "So what? That doesn't prove anything!"

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