Another Sign of the Apocalypse (Gay pride month seems off the charts this year!)

[Pavel Mosko]

This is according to my own subjective perceptions. E.g. Seeing some commercials here and there.

The biggest kicker was placing an order from 2 days ago on Amazon. I had some recent experiences with theft of my shipments where I thought the Amazon drivers were actually stealing my stuff after they snapped proof of delivery pic. (It's happen on my small orders before and did some reading on it from internet articles, YouTube videos etc. and can sometimes be a common thing for those small orders).


I was nervous so I went big this time. I drink a niche coffee called Illy that is made from beans that have been selectively bred to not be bitter, and I got a dozen cans rather than just 1 or 2 cans to replace my current coffee that will most likely run out maybe late July...

I got some new slippers, because my last ones just became thoroughly obliterated (prompting me to avoid my fear of Amazon theft to venture back to ordering there again).


And thought what else could I use... and looked at their shirts, and looked up novelty t shirts. I came really close to buying this one below.... Didn't not buy it, before I made that decision I was put off by the other suggested offerings. All of them were Star Wars "Pride" shirts that had the gay flag banner! That made me mad, and after a few minutes of nearly buying it deleted it from my my own sense of wanting to save money kicked in and decided to pass on the shirt. If I wasn't annoyed, I might have bought the shirt. It wasn't on sale, but it wasn't outrageously priced either and I tend to get a lot of use out of my t-shirts not just using them as hot weather attire but also pajama tops, and under shirts in winter.


I seem to recall in glancing at other stuff for sale their was similar stuff going on for other products, pushing pride products etc.


I am now googling to see if my experience is unusual for stuff in the news to make this an official News Section thing a ma bob.


Pride Revolution 2022 is a festive weekend with 6 events

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/06/01/pride-month-celebrations-dc/

Lando Calrissian, Sana Starros among LGBTQ characters on Star Wars’ Pride Month covers

Seattle Pride drops Amazon as a sponsor of city's LGBTQ parade

 

[2PhiloVoid]

This is according to my own subjective perceptions. E.g. Seeing some commercials here and there.

The biggest kicker was placing an order from 2 days ago on Amazon. I had some recent experiences with theft of my shipments where I thought the Amazon drivers were actually stealing my stuff after they snapped proof of delivery pic. (It's happen on my small orders before and did some reading on it from internet articles, YouTube videos etc. and can sometimes be a common thing for those small orders).


I was nervous so I went big this time. I drink a niche coffee called Illy that is made from beans that have been selectively bred to not be bitter, and I got a dozen cans rather than just 1 or 2 cans to replace my current coffee that will most likely run out maybe late July...

I got some new slippers, because my last ones just became thoroughly obliterated (prompting me to avoid my fear of Amazon theft to venture back to ordering there again).


And thought what else could I use... and looked at their shirts, and looked up novelty t shirts. I came really close to buying this one below.... Didn't not buy it, before I made that decision I was put off by the other suggested offerings. All of them were Star Wars "Pride" shirts that had the gay flag banner! That made me mad, and after a few minutes of nearly buying it deleted it from my my own sense of wanting to save money kicked in and decided to pass on the shirt. If I wasn't annoyed, I might have bought the shirt. It wasn't on sale, but it wasn't outrageously priced either and I tend to get a lot of use out of my t-shirts not just using them as hot weather attire but also pajama tops, and under shirts in winter.


I seem to recall in glancing at other stuff for sale their was similar stuff going on for other products, pushing pride products etc.


I am now googling to see if my experience is unusual for stuff in the news to make this an official News Section thing a ma bob.


Pride Revolution 2022 is a festive weekend with 6 events

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/06/01/pride-month-celebrations-dc/

Lando Calrissian, Sana Starros among LGBTQ characters on Star Wars’ Pride Month covers

Seattle Pride drops Amazon as a sponsor of city's LGBTQ parade

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Lol! That's a great Darth Vader t-shirt.

 

[SeventhFisherofMen]

I do believe we are getting close to the end as much as I don't like it but the pride thing is just usual modern day promotion of gay stuff. Nothing new. As far as it being the end I know you know that no one knows the day or the hour (that was hard to read lol) I would just say don't worry about the times, just do your best to prepare, don't worry (Jesus asks us not to worry) and just live life the best you can without stressing

 

[cow451]

I do believe we are getting close to the end as much as I don't like it but the pride thing is just usual modern day promotion of gay stuff. Nothing new. As far as it being the end I know you know that no one knows the day or the hour (that was hard to read lol) I would just say don't worry about the times, just do your best to prepare, don't worry (Jesus asks us not to worry) and just live life the best you can without stressing

Each day brings us one day closer to the end. Think about it.

 

[SeventhFisherofMen]

Each day brings us one day closer to the end. Think about it.

I understand that, that's usually how time works each second minute hour day week month year is one more closer to when Christ will return. I've actually thought about this a lot as I was diagnosed in a hospital based on my fear of the end. So no need to remind me to think about it getting closer to the end, already have and for me worrying about when the end will happen doesn't change anything. Jesus commands us not to worry.

 

[cow451]

I understand that, that's usually how time works each second minute hour day week month year is one more closer to when Christ will return. I've actually thought about this a lot as I was diagnosed in a hospital based on my fear of the end. So no need to remind me to think about it getting closer to the end, already have and for me worrying about when the end will happen doesn't change anything. Jesus commands us not to worry.

Maybe you should think about something else. Serenity Prayer.

 

[SeventhFisherofMen]

Maybe you should think about something else. Serenity Prayer.

lol I love how the advice was think about it and then think about something else. I appreciate the concern I am doing much better. That was when I was 20ish I'm 30 now and doing much better. It just seemed out of left field to tell me to think about it getting closer to the end. If you knew me or what I'd been through I'd probably be the last person you'd tell that but I'm sure your intentions were good with the short statement to "think about it."

 

[Pavel Mosko]

Nothing new. As far as it being the end I know you know that no one knows the day or the hour (that was hard to read lol) I would just say don't worry about the times, just do your best to prepare, don't worry (Jesus asks us not to worry) and just live life the best you can without stressing

Kind of disagree on that. This afternoon I just listened to this passage among other stuff.

1 Thessalonians 5

5 Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.

4 But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. 5 You are all children of the light and children of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. 6 So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be awake and sober.


Basically we don't know the exact time, but we can judge the general season and climate and know when things are near or approaching.

This theme is repeated in other places as well like

Luke 12:56, Matthew 24:32

Besides this the term "thief in the night" refers to the Jewish custom of the wedding feast which was a kind of surprise wedding party (the bride was taken in the middle of the night to go to the feast). Again a surprise but ideally speaking something also anticipated since, people would know they are engaged and the bridegroom and his father are building a house extension or a new house, and also preparing for the big party.


This theme is also repeated elsewhere like the end of the World being like the travail of birth (people usually know when giving birth is imminent while not knowing exactly when the baby will come).



I also got to say I think this more than just promotion stuff.
Bill Maher had a TV show that dealt with the gay and trans stuff recently, he noticed how the amount of those people who actually have identified as that has doubled with every generation for the last 70 years. Currently Generation Z has a 28% identification with same sex attraction! As he jokes, "if this trends continues we will all be gay by 2054!" He also had some good stuff to say about all the bad health affects from hormone blockers that are being prescribed to young kids who are self identifying with this stuff.


I actually can see this in my extended family. My mom's family line mostly died out, but my dad's line the Mosko's are going strong. We had no divorces for a while, my cousin Diane a late boomer was the first in the mid 80s. But the family has done much better than the national average on family stability stuff.

We had no same sex attraction from what I can tell, until generation Z came around and we got 2 of my second cousins have that, although that generation is a little smaller than the cohort of people I grew up with as a kid.

 

[SeventhFisherofMen]

...Basically we don't know the exact time, but we can judge the general season and climate and know when things are near or approaching....

I get what you're saying, I wasn't saying ignore the season or to do nothing, I said do your best to prepare but don't worry. What part are you disagreeing with me about? What I'm getting at is that a lot of Christians are so focused on the end times that they are at a constant level of stress and worry, waiting for the other shoe to drop. But despite what season it is no one knows the hour not even Jesus Himself, He said that. I can quote it exactly if you want; "
“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." All I'm saying is don't get caught up in the fear of the end, do what you need to prepare, and then live your life.

 

[Pavel Mosko]

It's not really a thing of stress for me. Actually it is more about cheering up when things are bad and accepting that things need to get worse before they ultimately get better.

 

[SeventhFisherofMen]

It's not really a thing of stress for me. Actually it is more about cheering up when things are bad and accepting that things need to get worse before they ultimately get better.

True, I guess I've always personally stressed about it, but Jesus gives a good example of his death and resurrection that can apply to the end times as well:

"When a woman is giving birth, she has sorrow because her hour has come, but when she has delivered the baby, she no longer remembers the anguish, for joy that a human being has been born into the world."

John 16:21

 

[Tom 1]

There seems to be a section of US churches obsessed with how other people are having sex. What’s that all about? Does anyone know when some proportion of Christians over there first became obsessed with gay people, whether or not this is obsession is shared by a majority of Christians, what the roots of it are etc?

 

[Pavel Mosko]

True, I guess I've always personally stressed about it, but Jesus gives a good example of his death and resurrection that can apply to the end times as well:

"When a woman is giving birth, she has sorrow because her hour has come, but when she has delivered the baby, she no longer remembers the anguish, for joy that a human being has been born into the world."

John 16:21

I also see it as a "reframe" in therapy/counseling a reframe is a way to see a problem differently, or at least it changes the nature of it in how people experience it and feel about it (different kinds of techniques to do that). Different examples of it one I like was this one famous psychiatrist, I studied who was able to reframe this woman's condition of cationic schizophrenic (she could stand or sit frozen in place for minutes or longer like a human statue), that that would be a benefit to her, because she was also attractive and had the potential to go into modeling. This person also had the "Waxy affect" aspect of that where an outside person could change their pose and they could hold it for hours etc. But the famous psychiatrist, convinced her, her condition for modeling was a boon because she can effortlessly hold a pose for hours, while all the normal people can't.


Any way there can be the a similar thing in the Bible, and Christianity, like the Beatitudes etc. where some of the bad things in life can be considered blessings, or at least can be so if we have the right attitude etc. This is also true for Paul's "thorn in the flesh", that was described as a "Dona" which is a gift, blessing etc. the root of where we get "donation".


But anyway the bad events of all the unrest, natural disasters, wars etc. other apocalyptic stuff can be considered positively and considered signs of hope and that help is on the way etc. And this is something I think about more for myself as far as issues like depression goes, when you have lived with problems a long time decades, and nothing seems to be moving or on the horizon as far as the issue your stewing over.

 

[SilverBear]

Kind of disagree on that. This afternoon I just listened to this passage among other stuff.

1 Thessalonians 5

5 Now, brothers and sisters, about times and dates we do not need to write to you, 2 for you know very well that the day of the Lord will come like a thief in the night. 3 While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.

4 But you, brothers and sisters, are not in darkness so that this day should surprise you like a thief. 5 You are all children of the light and children of the day. We do not belong to the night or to the darkness. 6 So then, let us not be like others, who are asleep, but let us be awake and sober.


Basically we don't know the exact time, but we can judge the general season and climate and know when things are near or approaching.

This theme is repeated in other places as well like

Luke 12:56, Matthew 24:32

Besides this the term "thief in the night" refers to the Jewish custom of the wedding feast which was a kind of surprise wedding party (the bride was taken in the middle of the night to go to the feast). Again a surprise but ideally speaking something also anticipated since, people would know they are engaged and the bridegroom and his father are building a house extension or a new house, and also preparing for the big party.


This theme is also repeated elsewhere like the end of the World being like the travail of birth (people usually know when giving birth is imminent while not knowing exactly when the baby will come).



I also got to say I think this more than just promotion stuff.
Bill Maher had a TV show that dealt with the gay and trans stuff recently, he noticed how the amount of those people who actually have identified as that has doubled with every generation for the last 70 years. Currently Generation Z has a 28% identification with same sex attraction! As he jokes, "if this trends continues we will all be gay by 2054!" He also had some good stuff to say about all the bad health affects from hormone blockers that are being prescribed to young kids who are self identifying with this stuff.


I actually can see this in my extended family. My mom's family line mostly died out, but my dad's line the Mosko's are going strong. We had no divorces for a while, my cousin Diane a late boomer was the first in the mid 80s. But the family has done much better than the national average on family stability stuff.

We had no same sex attraction from what I can tell, until generation Z came around and we got 2 of my second cousins have that, although that generation is a little smaller than the cohort of people I grew up with as a kid.

the number of people who are LGBT hasn't changed but many are now willing to be honest and live openly societal acceptance increases and discrimination and violence agaisnt lgbt individuals drops.

 

[SilverBear]

There seems to be a section of US churches obsessed with how other people are having sex. What’s that all about? Does anyone know when some proportion of Christians over there first became obsessed with gay people, whether or not this is obsession is shared by a majority of Christians, what the roots of it are etc?

It seems to me that homosexuals became the focus of so much hate and discrimination of the Christian right in the early 1970's for a number of reasons. Racial equality had become widely accepted and a new "enemy" needed to be found. Gays were starting to live openly. Medical and mental health organizations publicly rejected the idea that homosexuality was a disease. Anita Bryant began here homophobic campaign promoting the lie that gays were a danger to children.

You can see a similar pattern going on today as first marriage equality and then protections in employment and housing passed the courts and widespread acceptance of gays became the norm. A new enemy has to be found and sadly the Christian right has now begun to target the trans community. You can see the same rhetoric being employed. trans people are a danger to children and the family, they are corrupt and diseased.

 

[bèlla]

The world wasn’t destroyed over homosexuality. There were other problems including bestiality and DNA splicing (e.g. chimera). The catalyst was contamination. When the sons of God mated with the daughters of men the bloodline was spoiled (meant to counter Genesis 3:15). All that occurred in Noah’s day.

The decibel of evil isn’t high enough. We’re getting there but we have a way to go. That’s why I interpreted the stork on the 2019 thread.

 

[bèlla]

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This article offers helpful tweaks.

 

[Ignatius the Kiwi]

There seems to be a section of US churches obsessed with how other people are having sex. What’s that all about? Does anyone know when some proportion of Christians over there first became obsessed with gay people, whether or not this is obsession is shared by a majority of Christians, what the roots of it are etc?

Except it isn't only US Christians who are 'obsessed' with how other people have sex. It's everyone. Progressives care deeply about 'sexual repression' and view there as being no limits on sex. They seek to encourage this worldview to others and are basically proselytes of the sexual revolution.

Why might this be? Because sex matters to society and Christians have their own sexual ethos which rejects Homosexuality and promiscuity. The chief values of the modern age.

Christian concern for sex lives is in the New Testament and it never ceased to be a factor in how Christians viewed how society ought to run. Christianity never privatized sex completely and understood the sexual impulse needs to be personally reigned in lest we arrive at modernity. Homosexuality is merely one aspect of that loosening of Christian norms. We are not obligated to to support it, endorse it or affirm it. Just the opposite.

 

[Tom 1]

Except it isn't only US Christians who are 'obsessed' with how other people have sex. It's everyone. Progressives care deeply about 'sexual repression' and view there as being no limits on sex. They seek to encourage this worldview to others and are basically proselytes of the sexual revolution.

Why might this be? Because sex matters to society and Christians have their own sexual ethos which rejects Homosexuality and promiscuity. The chief values of the modern age.

Christian concern for sex lives is in the New Testament and it never ceased to be a factor in how Christians viewed how society ought to run. Christianity never privatized sex completely and understood the sexual impulse needs to be personally reigned in lest we arrive at modernity. Homosexuality is merely one aspect of that loosening of Christian norms. We are not obligated to to support it, endorse it or affirm it. Just the opposite.

You don’t have to do anything about it - it’s none of your business how other people live. This pretence that a significant number of Christians aren’t obsessed with a kind of curtain twitching nastiness towards gays is a farce, if it were anything like you say then the same people certainly wouldn’t throw their support behind a serial adulterer and general user of people like Trump. Your notions have nothing to do with reality.

 

[Tom 1]

Christian concern for sex lives is in the New Testament and it never ceased to be a factor in how Christians viewed how society ought to run.

Society?
Where did you get the notion that epistles written to the churches were directed at society? Or that Jesus was addressing anyone other than the Jews? The church certainly has a set of standards, but the societies we live in a bit merely an extension of whatever churches we attend.