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What is it that makes some followers of other world religions (or sometimes Muslims themselves, whether or not they consider themselves religious) often persecute or treat unjustly the followers of Islaam, especially those who are deemed to be more observant than the persecutors may like? Please note that this is NOT to promote a religion other than Christianity.
 
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First example for this thread:

The recent shooting in Chattanooga once again displays the double standards with which Muslims are treated (see here, here, here, and here) . It didn't take very long at all for authorities or the media to consider (or treat) this an act of terrorism:

"We will treat this as a terrorism investigation until it can be determined that it is not," Reinhold said. U.S. Attorney Bill Killian earlier told reporters that authorities were treating the shooting as an "act of domestic terrorism."

Chattanooga shooting: 4 Marines killed in Tennessee

Sort of reminds me of the 2 Fort Hood shootings.

"Despite the strikingly parallel narratives of both men forever linked as Fort Hood shooters, who were both ruled out as terrorists by law enforcement, the media coverage of Lopez and Hasan has been markedly different. Specifically, Lopez, like many other non-Muslims who have used firearms to kill, has been classified as “mentally ill,” while only Hasan has had the label of “terrorism” attached to his story."

Our shooting double standard: How do we decide which madmen are terrorists?
 
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Salaam Alaikum, LoveBeingAMuslimah. I am in the West Bank again, volunteering with ISM. The Israeli Army occupation I am documenting and trying to prevent when possible hits all Palestinians, not only Muslims, however I am in Hebron which is a mostly Muslim city.

If you are interested, feel free to check out and follow the blog. Please share it with others you know, so as much awareness can be raised about the situation here as possible.

Thanks and God bless.

www.hungryandthirstyforjustice.blogspot.com
 
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Salaam Alaikum, LoveBeingAMuslimah. I am in the West Bank again, volunteering with ISM. The Israeli Army occupation I am documenting and trying to prevent when possible hits all Palestinians, not only Muslims, however I am in Hebron which is a mostly Muslim city.

If you are interested, feel free to check out and follow the blog. Please share it with others you know, so as much awareness can be raised about the situation here as possible.

Thanks and God bless.

www.hungryandthirstyforjustice.blogspot.com

Wa Alaikum. That's awesome! Thank you for sharing your experiences and for helping to fight against injustice. I have read a few pages and will keep an eye on your blog.
 
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This is something I've been wondering and they put it much more eloquently:

"That’s how we evaluate our own strikes overseas: If we target a training site, and if the only people we kill are the fighters or trainees inside, our hands are clean. And that seems to be what Abdulazeez did to our own men in Chattanooga. We don’t yet know his motive. But if it turns out that he was angry about U.S. military action abroad—and if his response was to kill U.S. military personnel—does that make him a terrorist? Or just an enemy combatant?"

The Chattanooga Killings Aren't Terrorism

I mean, I guess one can make the case that he was a citizen of this country unlike American soldiers who kill combatants overseas. But if someone overseas did this shooting instead, I'd hazard a guess that it would be called international terrorism. Why not apply the term terrorism consistently instead of against just mainly Muslims?
 
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[QUOTE="LoveBeingAMuslimah, post: 68317991, member: 323708"
"Despite the strikingly parallel narratives of both men forever linked as Fort Hood shooters, who were both ruled out as terrorists by law enforcement, the media coverage of Lopez and Hasan has been markedly different. Specifically, Lopez, like many other non-Muslims who have used firearms to kill, has been classified as “mentally ill,” while only Hasan has had the label of “terrorism” attached to his story."

Our shooting double standard: How do we decide which madmen are terrorists? [/QUOTE]

Actually major hasan's Fort hood shooting was not officially ruled an act of terrorism until 2015. it was delayed because an act of terrorism would have allowed for greater victim benefits. initially it was ruled 'work place violence.' The Chattanooga shootings appear to be that of a very depressed young man with drug problems, not unlike so many senseless shootings in the US. he was thinking of suicide all along and just figured he go out a 'martyr.'
yeah, right.
 
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Actually major hasan's Fort hood shooting was not officially ruled an act of terrorism until 2015. it was delayed because an act of terrorism would have allowed for greater victim benefits. initially it was ruled 'work place violence.'

This further illustrates the differences in the treatment of Muslim perpetrators vs. non-Muslims.



"...the Arabs at least will suspect the truth: that the Americans have taken the Shia Muslim side in the Middle East’s sectarian war."

Iran Nuclear Deal: America Has Taken Iran's Side

(I posted this link and these verses as comfort elsewhere:
And [remember, O Muhammad], when those who disbelieved plotted against you to restrain you or kill you or evict you [from Makkah]. But they plan, and Allah plans. And Allah is the best of planners. (Surah al-Anfal 8:30)

And be patient, [O Muhammad], and your patience is not but through Allah . And do not grieve over them and do not be in distress over what they conspire. Indeed, Allah is with those who fear Him and those who are doers of good. (Surah an-Nahl 16:127))

It's something that was obvious to me since the beginning due to people largely ignoring Assad despite his atrocities and genocide (including using chemical weapons on civilians) but wanting to go in immediately against ISIS even though they have not even begun to come close to Assad in terms of the damage he has caused and the lives he has taken.
 
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It's something that was obvious to me since the beginning due to people largely ignoring Assad despite his atrocities and genocide (including using chemical weapons on civilians) but wanting to go in immediately against ISIS even though they have not even begun to come close to Assad in terms of the damage he has caused and the lives he has taken.

ISIS wanton execution of innocent Christians set the entire West against them. That's what they wanted, that's what they got. And yes, ISIS has made strange bedfellows of Iran and America, because if the US is not willing to send in ground troops to stop ISIS allowing Iran to do it is our only option. As for Assad, the US would have surely have supported his overthrow had they seen a viable alternative.
 
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"Schoolchildren in the UK who express support for Palestine face being questioned by police and referred to a counter-radicalisation programme for youngsters deemed at risk of being drawn into terrorism under new laws requiring teachers to monitor students for extremism."

"...Prevent has long been a source of resentment among many British Muslims, with critics complaining that it sows mistrust of Muslims and subjects them to discriminatory levels of surveillance and harassment..."

Stifling freedom of expression in UK schools

About the UK as well:

"Muslims, apparently, have not integrated sufficiently and they have allowed 'extremist voices' to dominate 'within Muslim debate'.

The conclusion? A further clampdown on Muslim's civil liberties is necessary in order to get them to identify more fully with British values of tolerance, democracy and free speech. The argument that 'non-violent extremism' can lead to 'violent extremism' opens the door to Orwellian levels of surveillance and harassment. Watch out. The world of thought crime is now with us"


If you want Muslims to identify with Britain, don't demonize and bomb them

(^That organization conveniently ignores Assad and Iran, but otherwise the article is decent)

“The evidence isn’t there to say ideology is the prime reason why people are becoming terrorists, and yet ideology is the foundation on which the counterterrorism effort is built on...."

"...He pointed out that there has been no similar focus on ideology in the fight against dissident republicans in Northern Ireland.

“Counter-ideology just doesn’t feature at all in counter-terrorism in Northern Ireland – because there is a general belief that it isn’t relevant and it doesn’t work,” he said. “Whereas with Islamic terrorism it is seen as being effective. Part of the reason is that most of the politicians making the decisions are not Muslim. So it is convenient for them for a whole range of reasons to talk about ideology.”"


Cameron's anti-terror strategy is 'barking up wrong tree', says expert
 
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ISIS wanton execution of innocent Christians set the entire West against them. That's what they wanted, that's what they got.

http://www.christianforums.com/thre...never-forgetful.7767980/page-20#post-66315004

And yes, ISIS has made strange bedfellows of Iran and America, because if the US is not willing to send in ground troops to stop ISIS allowing Iran to do it is our only option.

Why does the US target other Sunni rebel groups in Syria that are fighting against ISIS (and are some of the most effective in the fight against Assad)? Why not target Iranian terrorists who are helping Assad kill civilians?

As for Assad, the US would have surely have supported his overthrow had they seen a viable alternative.

Like they supported the overthrow of Morsi in favor of a military dictatorship? The US is all talk about preventing genocides and red lines.
 
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I wonder what the future holds for them. Will they be able to practise their faith or will they have to do it discreetly for fear of a teacher reporting them under the current Prevent legislation? Will any signs of increased religious practise be seen as a sign of “radicalisation” under this legislation?

I'm a Muslim woman, Mr. Cameron, and here's what your radicalization speech means to me


Well in 2015, we have a leader who just delivered a speech outlining how it was bad religion, and not politics, that is the cause of political violence.

It's scary just how much David Cameron doesn't seem to understand extremism
 
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I think this will be the last one about the UK (for now):

"By expanding on the definition of extremism, and essentially grouping hundreds of thousands of peaceful law-abiding British Muslims into the same camp as ISIS, the Prime Minster has only worsened the next five years of his term as the leader of this country....

Like the overwhelming number of British Muslims who highlighted the role of Western foreign policy as a contributing factor towards radicalisation, I fear that legitimate political dissent, a supposed fundamental British value enshrined in the Magna Carta, is being aggressively censored.

Personal concerns

What I find more alarming is that my personal religious beliefs in the concept of a Caliphate, Shariah law, and jihad - in a particular context and reality - which is in line with the scholarly consensus of the four Sunni schools of jurisprudence, is being criminalised under the banner of “combating ISIS ideology”."

Cameron follows Blair in criminalizing the Muslim community
 
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Why does the US target other Sunni rebel groups in Syria that are fighing against ISIS (and are some of the most effective in the fight against Assad)? Why not target Iranian terrorists who are helping Assad kill civilians?

There are other terrorist groups besides ISIS but the US is not targeting all Sunni rebel groups. It has been helping some of the more moderate ones.
I'm wondering where your figure of 200,000 comes from? If so many of these Sunni groups had not stated their intention of committing genocide against the Alawites there might be more sympathy towards them.

Like they supported the overthrow of Morsi in favor of a military dictatorship?

In what way did we support it?
 
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There are other terrorist groups besides ISIS but the US is not targeting all Sunni rebel groups. It has been helping some of the more moderate ones.

Why is it targeting any Sunni groups at all when those groups did nothing against the US? Why does it not harm the Shi'a groups in Syria that are terrorizing the Sunnis and helping to commit genocide against them?

I'm wondering where your figure of 200,000 comes from?

*At least 200,000. (From Jan. 1st):

The figures from the monitoring group, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, put the total number of dead in the conflict as of Wednesday at 206,603...But the United Nations said in December that more than 200,000 people had been killed in the conflict, which began as an uprising against President Bashar al-Assad and has since evolved into a civil war that has destabilized the Middle East.

Syria Deaths Hit New High in 2014, Observer Group Says

This is what I said last November:

The Syrian Network for Human Rights recently gave a report:

"The Syrian regime forces killed no less than 133,586 people; including 109,347 civilian (88% of the total), among them 15,149 children and 13,695 women. In addition, 4,892 person were killed under torture"

They gave some figures of the dead by each side. Even accounting for all of the different rebel groups (including ISIS), the regime kills FAR more civilians (according to the stats we have available, the Syrian regime has killed more than 98% of the civilians killed so far...99.7% if you discount ISIS...and we're not even including dying due to starvation and such in this figure)

After giving specific numbers for the month of June alone, they said,

"There are lots of cases which were out of our reach, especially in the cases of massacres in some towns and villages where the Syrian government usually cuts all connections and surrounds the targeted town or village, which will probably make the actual number of victims higher than the documented number."

Death Toll since the Beginning of the Revolution until the End of June/2014 | SNHR

If so many of these Sunni groups had not stated their intention of committing genocide against the Alawites there might be more sympathy towards them.

Where is the proof behind this claim?

In what way did we support it?

Exclusive: U.S. Bankrolled anti-Morsi activists

We also did not stop giving them aid even though we were supposed to after a military coup of a democratically elected leader.
 
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Why is it targeting any Sunni groups at all when those groups did nothing against the US? Why does it not harm the Shi'a groups in Syria that are terrorizing the Sunnis and helping to commit genocide against them?

As I said they are targeting Christians, Yazidis and other minorities who have no dog in this fight.

*At least 200,000. (From Jan. 1st):

The figures from the monitoring group, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, put the total number of dead in the conflict as of Wednesday at 206,603...But the United Nations said in December that more than 200,000 people had been killed in the conflict, which began as an uprising against President Bashar al-Assad and has since evolved into a civil war that has destabilized the Middle East.

The Syrian Network for Human Rights recently gave a report:

"The Syrian regime forces killed no less than 133,586 people; including 109,347 civilian (88% of the total), among them 15,149 children and 13,695 women. In addition, 4,892 person were killed under torture"

How are they defining civilians? I know one of the criticisms against that first source you cited is that combatants were being included as civilians so long as they had never been members of the Syrian military. If civilians were being killed indiscriminately I would expect half of the causalities to be women.

They gave some figures of the dead by each side. Even accounting for all of the different rebel groups (including ISIS), the regime kills FAR more civilians (according to the stats we have available, the Syrian regime has killed more than 98% of the civilians killed so far...99.7% if you discount ISIS...and we're not even including dying due to starvation and such in this figure)

But that wouldn't include the casualties in Iraq, would it?

Where is the proof behind this claim?

Just a few weeks ago someone posted a video from al-Jazeera here where with a panel and the person representing Syrian Sunnis sat there in his suit and tie(!) calling for the complete extermination of Alawite community.

Exclusive: U.S. Bankrolled anti-Morsi activists

Okay, apparently you are right about that one.
 
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As I said they are targeting Christians, Yazidis and other minorities who have no dog in this fight.

And what about the Sunni civilians who are being targeted? Because they belong to the majority that is being killed, they're not as important and this threat does not deserve to be acted on the way Christians, Yazidis, and others being targeted is acted on? There is an actual genocide against them unlike the others (and ISIS is killing Sunnis in great numbers too).

Oh, and:

Targeting Churches in Syria

(the government is responsible for targeting 63% of the churches targeted....why isn't the West against it now as much as it is against ISIS if it takes Christians being targeted to anger it to action)

And what a Syrian Christian (and former friend of Assad) says:
"The regime chooses some figures to put in positions of power, like ministers or ambassadors, so that they explain that Christians are integrated and benefit from the regime, but the truth is different."
Christians are active participants in the Syrian revolution

How are they defining civilians? I know one of the criticisms against that first source you cited is that combatants were being included as civilians so long as they had never been members of the Syrian military. If civilians were being killed indiscriminately I would expect half of the causalities to be women.

Criticisms by whom? By Musa al-Gharbi and RT if you got your information from wikipedia? RT's views on anything Syria related are to be taken with a grain of salt, especially when it promotes Assad or writes against the Sunnis. Musa al-Gharbi has the audacity to claim that the Syrian population did not loathe Assad and that Assad was not a sponsor of terrorism.

Anyway, the ones that gave the percentages and detailed figures say this on their page regarding their methodology:

"We count the death toll and as we count the death number in each governorate, and distinguish between civilians and fighters."

But that wouldn't include the casualties in Iraq, would it?

Nope. They weren't included (Sunni civilians in Iraq killed Shi'as not being an exception...apparently Sunni civilians don't matter so Western nations shouldn't include them as a reason to fight against anyone unless they also fight against Assad). Even if you were to add them on though, Assad still killed far more.

Just a few weeks ago someone posted a video from al-Jazeera here where with a panel and the person representing Syrian Sunnis sat there in his suit and tie(!) calling for the complete extermination of Alawite community.

How does that mean anything for the Syrian rebels? Is he a rebel leader? Did the rebels agree to him speaking on behalf of the Syrian Sunnis? Which of those groups said that they wanted to exterminate the Alawites, including the non-combatants? On the other hand, who is already committing genocide (Assad or the rebels)?

Okay, apparently you are right about that one.

Which is why I don't have much faith that taking down Assad was ever of interest to the US. Our government may pay lip service, but that's about it.
 
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And what about the Sunni civilians who are being targeted? Because they belong to the majority that is being killed, they're not as important and this threat does not deserve to be acted on the way Christians, Yazidis, and others being targeted is acted on?

ISIS is victim of its own propaganda. The Syrian Government doesn't slice off people's heads publicly where everyone can see it.

There is an actual genocide against them unlike the others (and ISIS is killing Sunnis in great numbers too).

Sunnis are being killed in a civil war but I see no evidence that the government is out to slaughter 74% of the population, which is what they would have to do to kill of the entire Sunni population.

Oh, and:

Targeting Churches in Syria

(the government is responsible for targeting 63% of the churches targeted....why isn't the West against it now as much as it is against ISIS if it takes Christians being targeted to anger it to action)

What moves the West is Christians getting their heads chopped off, not churches burning. Haven't you heard? In the Bible belt they've been burning all kinds of black churches. http://time.com/3942688/black-church-burning-mount-zion-ame-south-carolina/

And what a Syrian Christian (and former friend of Assad) says:
"The regime chooses some figures to put in positions of power, like ministers or ambassadors, so that they explain that Christians are integrated and benefit from the regime, but the truth is different."
Christians are active participants in the Syrian revolution

So as "active participants" are they for or against Assad?

Nope. They weren't included (Sunni civilians in Iraq killed Shi'as not being an exception...apparently Sunni civilians don't matter so Western nations shouldn't include them as a reason to fight against anyone unless they also fight against Assad).

We didn't attack ISIL until they moved into Iraq. Before that we were just going tsk, tsk.

Which is why I don't have much faith that taking down Assad was ever of interest to the US. Our government may pay lip service, but that's about it.

Our government has been admittedly wishy-washy on this whole issue because we are not sure he will be replaced by anyone better. And whether or not you believe it the genocide of the Alawites is likely to be the outcome of a Sunni victory. Ultimately a negotiated settlement is needed if we are going to avoid further bloodshed.
 
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ISIS is victim of its own propaganda. The Syrian Government doesn't slice off people's heads publicly where everyone can see it.

No, but regime soldiers and loyalists posted videos of beating and mutilating people, sometimes to death, in the beginning. Unfortunately, I cannot find those anymore because people are more concerned with re-uploading ISIS atrocities over and over again instead of Assad's (despite Assad committing more of them).

Following your logic, they should be victims of their own propaganda as well. But they're not (not by the same people who rush to fight against ISIS).

Sunnis are being killed in a civil war but I see no evidence that the government is out to slaughter 74% of the population, which is what they would have to do to kill of the entire Sunni population.

So you're back to believing it's a civil war? I thought you agreed an article I posted from 2013 made a good argument about how Assad is committing a genocide. It's an insult to the Sunnis who are dying in large numbers at the hands of the Alawites to call it anything besides that.

"Certainly, the chemical weapons attack alone constitutes an act of genocide, as defined by International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia court decisions. The Sunnis have been deliberately targeted and destroyed by the Alawite dictatorship, an offshoot of the Shi’a sect of Islam. As such, a Shi’a oriented minority is mass murdering another group. Destroying a religious group is genocide unless they are combatants."

Syria's Civil War Has Become a Genocide | World Policy Institute

What moves the West is Christians getting their heads chopped off, not churches burning. Haven't you heard? In the Bible belt they've been burning all kinds of black churches. http://time.com/3942688/black-church-burning-mount-zion-ame-south-carolina/

Oh, yeah, it only moves them when the churches are allegedly torched by people they don't normally like in Egypt (even if it's all just propaganda to smear the Brotherhood despite knowing that the government thugs were actively trying to frame them).

So as "active participants" are they for or against Assad?

Against Assad as is made clear in the interview.

We didn't attack ISIL until they moved into Iraq. Before that we were just going tsk, tsk.

Why don't we attack Iran after they moved into Syria to help commit genocide? Right now we're not even going tsk, tsk. No, we're actually allying with them!

Our government has been admittedly wishy-washy on this whole issue because we are not sure he will be replaced by anyone better. And whether or not you believe it the genocide of the Alawites is likely to be the outcome of a Sunni victory. Ultimately a negotiated settlement is needed if we are going to avoid further bloodshed.

As I said to you before when you gave the same reasoning regarding not helping with the downfall of Assad:

Except the past few decades have been examples of the Alawites killing the Sunnis and gaining power through murder. There has been a precedent in old and recent history of the Sunni civilians being killed in the tens of thousands due to the government. The Sunnis (again, the majority) have more to fear from the minority than the other way around. Saying anything else is just an assumption.

There is evidence that the current government is committing an ongoing genocide against the Sunni population. It's not just a real danger (or the likely outcome), it's reality!
 
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No, but regime soldiers and loyalists posted videos of beating and mutilating people, sometimes to death, in the beginning.

The videos I'm talking about are the ones made by ISIS itself where their victims are dressed in orange before they are either beheaded or burned to death. I don't think most Americans even know about the ones you are talking about.

following your logic, they should be victims of their own propaganda as well. But they're not (not by the same people who rush to fight against ISIS).

We are not rushing. Obama is still committed to no boots on the ground. The was no aerial bombing done in Syria until ISIL invaded Iraq, and the only aerial bombing since then has targeted ISIL and the Khorasan group associated with al-Qaeda. The very name of this group shows it to be another apocalyptic death cult like ISIL.


So you're back to believing it's a civil war? I thought you agreed an article I posted from 2013 made a good argument about how Assad is committing a genocide.

Insofar as the use of chemical weapons is deemed an act of genocide, perha
ps so. I was thinking of the genocide in the sense of trying to eliminate an entire ethnic group which is apparently what the Sunnis have in store for the Alawites.
It's an insult to the Sunnis who are dying in large numbers at the hands of the Alawites to call it anything besides that.

You realize that the majority of the Syrian Army is made up of Sunnis?

Oh, yeah, it only moves them when the churches are allegedly torched by people they don't normally like in Egypt (even if it's all just propaganda to smear the Brotherhood despite knowing that the government thugs were actively trying to frame them).

Evidence that government thugs trying to frame the Muslim Brotherhood were behind the church burnings?

Yeah, people were upset about that. But if they had started beheading Christians they would have done more than get upset.

Why don't we attack Iran after they moved into Syria to help commit genocide?

I've not seen any evidence that Iran brought in those chemical weapons which is the legal basis for your charge of genocide.
 
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The videos I'm talking about are the ones made by ISIS itself where their victims are dressed in orange before they are either beheaded or burned to death. I don't think most Americans even know about the ones you are talking about.

And I'm talking about the videos that Assad loyalists made where their victims are dirtied and bloodied before they are either beaten or mutilated to death. Where they are buried alive and told to say that Assad is their god. Where they are kicked and told to kiss Assad's picture. Why don't most Americans even know about the ones I'm talking about but they do when it comes to ISIS?

We are not rushing. Obama is still committed to no boots on the ground. The was no aerial bombing done in Syria until ISIL invaded Iraq, and the only aerial bombing since then has targeted ISIL

We did rush. 3 years of Assad's atrocities and nothing. A few months (was it even that...it felt like a few weeks?) of ISIS claiming a caliphate and the governments are in a frenzy to attack even though ISIS had not reached Assad's level of atrocities.

Insofar as the use of chemical weapons is deemed an act of genocide, perhaps so. I was thinking of the genocide in the sense of trying to eliminate an entire ethnic group which is apparently what the Sunnis have in store for the Alawites.

Whatever definition you have in your mind of genocide, the Syrian regime is guilty of the international definition of it (though governments may have tried to squirm away from the definition of genocide before, it didn't change the fact).

Elsner: “What’s the difference between ‘acts of genocide’ and ‘genocide’?”
Shelly: “Well, I think the — as you know, there’s a legal definition of this....Clearly not all of the killings that have taken place in Rwanda are killings to which you might apply that label...But as to the distinctions between the words, we’re trying to call what we have so far as best as we can; and based, again, on the evidence, we have every reason to believe that acts of genocide have occurred.”
Elsner: “How many acts of genocide does it take to make genocide?”
Shelly: “Alan, that’s just not a question that I’m in a position to answer."

....Mr. President, how many uses of chemical weapons does it take to cross a red line against the use of chemical weapons? That is a question you must be in a position to answer.


Obama should remember Rwanda as he weighs action in Syria

You realize that the majority of the Syrian Army is made up of Sunnis?

"Defections, desertions, and over 44,000 combat fatalities have reduced the Syrian Arab Army from a pre-war high of 325,000 soldiers to an estimated 150,000 battle-tested yet war-weary troops."

The Assad Regime Under Stress: Conscription and Protest among Alawite and Minority Populations in Syria

How many of the 150,000 people in the Syrian Army is made up of Sunnis? I also wonder how many of the 131,000 of the deserters/defectors were Sunnis. Furthermore,

"Analysis of the Syrian Army’s 2011-2012 military campaign suggested that the regime could only reliably deploy 65,000 to 75,000 of its troops in offensive operations, mainly elite units such as the Republican Guard, the Special Forces, and the 4th Armored Division commanded by President Assad’s brother Maher al-Assad. Meanwhile, regular army units – mainly comprised of rank-and-file conscripted Sunnis deemed ‘untrustworthy’ by the regime – were confined to defensive positions or limited offensives in close proximity to their bases."

The Regime's Military Capabilities: Part 1

The elite units are comprised mainly of Alawites. In any case, shame on any Sunni who is cooperating with Assad. No self-respect.

Evidence that government thugs trying to frame the Muslim Brotherhood were behind the church burnings?

No explicit evidence (btw, what evidence is there of Muslim Brotherhood being behind the burning of churches in the first place)...just the fact that the military/police (which was still comprised of Mubarak loyalists after Morsi was elected) is known to dress up as civilians and commit atrocities during Mubarak's era and now:

Pre-Morsi:

1.)"Abdel Hamid was abducted by men in civilian clothes and detained in the basement of the nearby Egyptian Museum, Gharbali said. Another witness, Hani al-Azab, told the committee that he and Abdel Hamid were taken in armoured vehicles to the museum at about 6am on 3 February and were tortured and photographed with weapons and money. Before dawn on 4 February, Azab said, he and Abdel Hamid were transferred to a military prison run by a unit he named as Military Intelligence Group 75, where they were tortured and forced to confess to crimes.

Egypt's army took in torture and killings during revolution, reports show

2.)the biggest of what has come out so far reveals something far worse: official government involvement in the Alexandria church bombing and in a 2005 resort bombing.

Docs: Egypt Security Bombed Churches, Resort

During/after the coup:

On youtube, search:
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الداخلية فى مركز ناصر بـ #بني_سويف بتغير الميري عشان تصطاد المتظاهرين

and you'll see the police/military dressing up as civilians before continuing to shoot at people (presumably so they can blame the anti-coup protestors).

4.) The military/police accused the Muslim Brotherhood supporters/anti-coup protesters of pushing a police van, though this video shows otherwise:


5.) They had to make multiple stories about what happened when prisoners died:

Al Jazeera's Mike Hanna, reporting from Cairo, said: "The initial reports from the Interior Ministry said that armed attackers had attempted to free the prisoners. This was then amended to the fact that prisoners being transferred from a police station to another prison had overcome one of the escorts, and they had to be attacked to free that particular escort.

"Then the version emerged that prisoners who were being transported from a police station or stations to another prison tried to escape, and tear gas was used which led to loss of life."


Fresh Egypt protests follow prisoner deaths - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

6.) They lied about who attacked who first during the first dawn massacre (on July 8th, 2013....a few days before Ramadhaan) - though even if the protesters HAD attacked first, I wouldn't have blamed them since the new government is illegal and violent:

At the second kneel of the prayers, the attack began | World news | The Guardian

Yeah, people were upset about that. But if they had started beheading Christians they would have done more than get upset.

Do people even know about Assad targeting churches like they did about the Muslim Brotherhood allegedly torching churches?

I've not seen any evidence that Iran brought in those chemical weapons which is the legal basis for your charge of genocide.

They are aiding Assad and are therefore complicit in Assad's atrocities. Anyone who helped the Nazis would be complicit in the genocide they committed, right?
 
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