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Analyzing crazy eights for seebs
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<blockquote data-quote="npetreley" data-source="post: 309011" data-attributes="member: 2651"><p>Here's a fascinating site that lets you click your way through the supposed geneology of Chinese characters. </p><p></p><p><a href="http://zhongwen.com/" target="_blank">http://zhongwen.com/</a></p><p></p><p>It's a framed site that can be a pain to navigate, but it lets you "drill down" through combinations of pictographs, ideographs, etc., to analyze words. I've provided some URLs you can use to bypass their navigation system to study the etymology of the word "boat," but you may have to do things like right-click and open links in other tabs to make this work my way instead of going through their framed system. </p><p></p><p>Go to this page -- <a href="http://zhongwen.com/d/178/d238.htm" target="_blank">http://zhongwen.com/d/178/d238.htm</a> -- where you should see the character for boat. Note that it says "boat [vessel] with phonetic." So far, it looks just like seebs and his USENET guy said. The right-hand half of the word is indeed a unified phonetic. Here's what you should see (you can't click to navigate on my image but you can click on the one at the site.) </p><p></p><p><img src="http://zhongwen.com/d/178/d238.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>So let's see where this phonetic comes from. On their page, click on that phonetic (or open the link associated with that phonetic - depending on how you visited this page, browser, etc.). This is what you should see: </p><p></p><p><img src="http://zhongwen.com/d/u/dy3.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Ouch. This stuff about drainage looks bad for the Noah's ark interpretation. </p><p></p><p>But... this is still just describing the phonetic, not its component parts. So click on the COMPONENT OF THE PHONETIC that we thought was "eight" to see where that takes you (or open the link associated with that phonetic - depending on how you visited this page). You'll see this: </p><p></p><p><img src="http://zhongwen.com/d/164/d75.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Are we having fun yet? Perhaps someone should send an apology to AiG, eh?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="npetreley, post: 309011, member: 2651"] Here's a fascinating site that lets you click your way through the supposed geneology of Chinese characters. [url]http://zhongwen.com/[/url] It's a framed site that can be a pain to navigate, but it lets you "drill down" through combinations of pictographs, ideographs, etc., to analyze words. I've provided some URLs you can use to bypass their navigation system to study the etymology of the word "boat," but you may have to do things like right-click and open links in other tabs to make this work my way instead of going through their framed system. Go to this page -- [url]http://zhongwen.com/d/178/d238.htm[/url] -- where you should see the character for boat. Note that it says "boat [vessel] with phonetic." So far, it looks just like seebs and his USENET guy said. The right-hand half of the word is indeed a unified phonetic. Here's what you should see (you can't click to navigate on my image but you can click on the one at the site.) [img]http://zhongwen.com/d/178/d238.gif[/img] So let's see where this phonetic comes from. On their page, click on that phonetic (or open the link associated with that phonetic - depending on how you visited this page, browser, etc.). This is what you should see: [img]http://zhongwen.com/d/u/dy3.gif[/img] Ouch. This stuff about drainage looks bad for the Noah's ark interpretation. But... this is still just describing the phonetic, not its component parts. So click on the COMPONENT OF THE PHONETIC that we thought was "eight" to see where that takes you (or open the link associated with that phonetic - depending on how you visited this page). You'll see this: [img]http://zhongwen.com/d/164/d75.gif[/img] Are we having fun yet? Perhaps someone should send an apology to AiG, eh? [/QUOTE]
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