Anabaptists views on peace? and the system? and eucumenical movement?

[Koontzy]

The church I go to is non-denom, but we hold alot of beliefs that the amish,mennonites, and baptists do... we are preparing for the 7 year trib just in case the rapture isnt a pre-trib because Jesus tells us to always be prepared.... I have a question...

Not far from where I live in Blackville, SC theres a mennonite area, and some churches, I plan on checking them out. I know the ones down here have tried to take themselves out of the system, what I mean is relying on the govement, and all that stuff...

the question I have is that I know mennonites, and most all anabaptists are part of the peace church group.. does that mean you wont use force if necessary? like someone comes after you or your family? I know jesus told us to turn the other cheek, but doesnt the bible also say theres a time for war? Just wondering...

also I am against the Catholic religion, dont want to go into details, but I am also against this big eucumenical movement that includes alot of churches(catholic, muslim, presbyteriun, ect..) are the mennonites and anabaptists for this? do they fight against the cults? by cults i mean JW's, mormons, ect....

also what about homosexuality? do they preach against it?

sorry for all the questions

thanks
-Ryan

 

[WayneinMaine]

The church I go to is non-denom, but we hold alot of beliefs that the amish,mennonites, and baptists do... we are preparing for the 7 year trib just in case the rapture isnt a pre-trib because Jesus tells us to always be prepared.... I have a question...

Not far from where I live in Blackville, SC theres a mennonite area, and some churches, I plan on checking them out. I know the ones down here have tried to take themselves out of the system, what I mean is relying on the govement, and all that stuff...

the question I have is that I know mennonites, and most all anabaptists are part of the peace church group.. does that mean you wont use force if necessary? like someone comes after you or your family? I know jesus told us to turn the other cheek, but doesnt the bible also say theres a time for war? Just wondering...

also I am against the Catholic religion, dont want to go into details, but I am also against this big eucumenical movement that includes alot of churches(catholic, muslim, presbyteriun, ect..) are the mennonites and anabaptists for this? do they fight against the cults? by cults i mean JW's, mormons, ect....

also what about homosexuality? do they preach against it?

sorry for all the questions

thanks
-Ryan

The best way to get your questions answered is probably to ask some of the Mennonites in your area.. You might be surprised at some of their answers in relationship to how you understand things, but try to understand the very different spiritual perspective they are coming from than your run-of-the-mill Evangelical Protestant or Roman Catholic.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

quote= The church I go to is non-denom, but we hold alot of beliefs that the amish,mennonites, and baptists do... we are preparing for the 7 year trib just in case the rapture isnt a pre-trib because Jesus tells us to always be prepared.... I have a question...
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WAY COOL; I don't know how you're preparing, but corrie ten boom and richard wurmbrand BOTH made a point that real believers MUST be getting prepared and be ready for the gov that IS like nazi germany that IS gaining control over most countries(including youessaya) or already has control....((the trib IS already))..
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Not far from where I live in Blackville, SC theres a mennonite area, and some churches, I plan on checking them out. I know the ones down here have tried to take themselves out of the system, what I mean is relying on the govement, and all that stuff...
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THIS is real hard to do, see how TEXAS reacted to the group that had about 100%HEALTHY and BEAUTIFUL children and women??? .... although they weren't trying to not rely on the gov(their income was from welfare) .... still, any group, even any COUNTRY (like nicaragua or peru) that wants to be FREE OF THE ONE WORLD hasatanic GOVERNMENT that's in place NOW gets the worlds' wrath (including the youessaye !)
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the question I have is that I know mennonites, and most all anabaptists are part of the peace church group.. does that mean you wont use force if necessary? like someone comes after you or your family? I know jesus told us to turn the other cheek, but doesnt the bible also say theres a time for war? Just wondering...
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Living right is hard, but necessary. The movie "conscientious objector" was on channel 11 PBS a few months ago(and must have been around a few or many times before)....
He would not carry a gun, and refused to although punished.
He would not(did not) fight even when the enemy had his troop pinned down with machine gun fire,
BUT HE WASN"T AFRAID !
NO COWARD HERE ! - HE RESCUED i think about 120 of his buddies who were wounded while the enemy was shooting all around him; the "conscientious objector" went back repeatedly and carried or dragged the wounded soldiers back to safety, one after another, for hours; all while under fire...
HE NEVER PICKED UP A WEAPON, and WOULD NOT because of his FAITH in the TRUTH and GOSPEL of YAHSHUA...(and he RESCUED MANY soldiers who did carry weapons and who may have killed others themselves.
the "conscientious objector" was awarded the highest medal of honor for bravery and action by the pres of the youessaye or someone high up like that.
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also I am against the Catholic religion, dont want to go into details, but I am also against this big eucumenical movement that includes alot of churches(catholic, muslim, presbyteriun, ect..) are the mennonites and anabaptists for this? do they fight against the cults? by cults i mean JW's, mormons, ect....
also what about homosexuality? do they preach against it?
sorry for all the questions
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You probably already know the answer yourself, but for some right or wrong reason were hoping that someone would tell you otherwise.
The answer rests with Yahweh, and is clear, very clear in Scripture-
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thanks
-Ryan end quote

 

[nzguy]

yeah I have no time for ecumenicism.. it reminds me of New Age beliefs and really stretches the meaning of what 'church' is supposed to be.

New Age.. because in the name of uniting under a universal banner.. truth is watered down or non-existent

Stretches the meaning of the word church.. because if you have a look at the Greek.. it is 'ecclessia' which referes to a called out assembly of believers or a congregation.. a body of believers. Ecumecism streches this meaning out to mean.. the assembly of Christians on earth.. so then teh body of believers becomes universal. The trouble with this.. is what are this universal body united on?

Nothing really. Since salvation is by different ways within diff denoms in that universal body.. spiritual gifts are treated differently.. the trinity is treated differently..

it is a fractured.. disjointed.. disabled body.. that can in no way represent Jesus Christ!

What does represent Jesus Christ.. is local congregations that work in unity... being a light to their respective communities. They can represent Jesus Christ as different bodies of believers very well, and make the book of Ephesians a possibility rather than an ideal of the past!

anyhoo.. that's my rant

and 4 cents (my two cents has gone up from inflation)

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

The Anabaptists, and before them the Waldensians, who follow and who followed the Master Yahshua and obeyed Scripture,
separated themselves from the worldly churches
and would not fight, not even to defend themselves.

They would not pray to nor worship any person.

http://www.neve-family.com/books/misc/anabaptists/01.html

May have a few clues.

There are not many, because truth is not popular, and
those who become Anabaptist or Waldensian are usually or often kicked out of their own family and community (unless as sometimes gracefully happens a whole family or community starts to and keeps following the Truth together).

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Several no longer use the internet because there is such a prevalence of pagan symbols and icons and statements that are plain wrong and yet unavoidable.

I don't know where the others(ones who have left) have gone, but don't expect to find too many here that agree with the Anabaptists and / or the Waldensians. They don't feel welcome and have gone elsewhere. Email me if you know of any around oklahoma or the u.s.a or any where.

 

[DeBrown]

Very good information in this topic!