I would like a example of an animal going through the evolutionary process. take a organism(simple ancestor) and explain a process of this. it can be long as you want it. detail all the organs and blood and apendages and reproductive and such. help explain the procedure step by step. like step one this happened step two this happened so on. Or give a site that does this.
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I know that you arent going to be satisfied with anything we put on here. So i am going to tell you now, that we dont have all the answers. Particulars like you are going to ask for are things we simply dont know about. We dont know what order, or the details of which gene mutated which way to create which effect.
We DO know that some kind of mutation occured... but the detail on the level that i know you are after is not there for obvious reasons...
And no taking this out of context and misquoting me.
We DO know that some kind of mutation occured... but the detail on the level that i know you are after is not there for obvious reasons...
And no taking this out of context and misquoting me.
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that transition is pretty lame. 90% of it is made up. I think I might become a transitional fossil artist, all I would need is a copy of Maya, and the morph function. Then I would have to say things like "no one could dispute this" or "only morons would think this is wrong".GoSeminoles! said:
Even if bio-genisis or evolution to this huge extent is possible (which it may be), this is a bit like me going.
lion... tiger... cat... dog... marmot... prary dog... koala... kangaroo.
Wow... look they must have evolved!
Forgive the sarcasm... these line ups just frustrate me... I can't beleive how many people are suckered in by these "proofs". Most of the bones are found in the "same area" often hundereds of metres appart, and are reorganised how they want to be (and very incomplete)... and even then, there is no DNA left to test if they are even remotely similar other than how they look.
And even if they had that, which they don't, scientists (not all) with no forsite, still believe that most of the Genome does nothing... Just like they used to think about the brain. Well I guess they were right to a greater extent.
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Juman, just a heads up. I think the word you are wanting is abiogenesis instead of biogenesis (or bio-genisis, as you spelled it). Also, abiogenesis is irrelevant to evolution.
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Abiogenisis, is probably relatively irrelivant to the debate, as evolutionists haven't yet agreed on how cells were formed.
Biogenisis is actually very relevant, as most people confuse "everything coming from the one creature" with "adaption"
bi·o·gen·e·sis
The principle that living organisms develop only from other living organisms and not from nonliving matter.
Biogenisis is actually very relevant, as most people confuse "everything coming from the one creature" with "adaption"
bi·o·gen·e·sis
The principle that living organisms develop only from other living organisms and not from nonliving matter.
- Generation of living organisms from other living organisms.
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- The supposed recurrence of the evolutionary stages of a species during the embryonic development and differentiation of a member of that species. Also called recapitulation.
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I saw both those terms in the same sentence and since people usually equate abiogenesis with evolution wrongfully, I thought you just may have made a slight mistake.
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No problem, just trying to help. By the way, welcome to the forums.Juman said:no probs.. thanks for the heads up anyway.
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Well, I think if you bothered to do a little research (like reading the contents of the link I supplied and digging around for more whale info there or at talk.origins) you'd find that it isn't made up. All those fossils contain anatomical traits that are unique to whales and that become progressively more like modern whales with the more recent species.Juman said:
And you'll forgive my bluntness, but I will place my trust in the peer-reviewed work of thousands of scientific experts in the field over yours every time.
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william jay schroeder said:
On some hill
Person A: *kicks a rock down the hill out of boredom*
Later at the foot of the same hill
Person B to C: "No, that rock was not kicked down that hill! In fact, I don't believe rocks can be kicked down hills. Not unless you can show me the exact trajectories and every single location where the rock bounced on its way down the hill."
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i figured it would not be possible with the huge amount of information evolutionist have these days. you all just proved my point.Dracil said:
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And you just proved seventytwo's point.
BTW, Macroaddition doesn't actually exist either. I mean, we have the number 1,000,000,000,000, but have you started from 1 and microadded 1 by 1, step by step until you reached 1,000,000,000,000? No? What, are you saying it's not possible for you to do with the huge amount of numbers that exist? Surely you jest.
BTW, Macroaddition doesn't actually exist either. I mean, we have the number 1,000,000,000,000, but have you started from 1 and microadded 1 by 1, step by step until you reached 1,000,000,000,000? No? What, are you saying it's not possible for you to do with the huge amount of numbers that exist? Surely you jest.
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No such thing as an "evolutionist." Just one more term a person without a clue tends to use.william jay schroeder said:
However, the information the theory is based upon is what it is. You don't like it? Propose a better theory that explains it. Oh, my... suddenly it's too much information for you to handle. Because yes, you'll have to say, "goddidit" for each and every instance.
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And you'll forgive my bluntness, but I will place my trust in the peer-reviewed work of thousands of scientific experts in the field over yours every time
THen why are we even debating?
THen why are we even debating?
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On some hill
Person A: *kicks a rock down the hill out of boredom*
Later at the foot of the same hill
Person B to C: "No, that rock was not kicked down that hill! In fact, I don't believe rocks can be kicked down hills. Not unless you can show me the exact trajectories and every single location where the rock bounced on its way down the hill."
First off. Isnt rock kicking a little easier to accomplish, one becasue we see rock kicking happening every day, and two we do not see evolution happeneing every day.
Also that was whole paragraph was based of the assumption that the rock was kicked. Just like scientists assume evolution to be true and then go out to prove it. Im not defending creationist's and their biases im just pointing outthat scientists ahvethem as well
Person A: *kicks a rock down the hill out of boredom*
Later at the foot of the same hill
Person B to C: "No, that rock was not kicked down that hill! In fact, I don't believe rocks can be kicked down hills. Not unless you can show me the exact trajectories and every single location where the rock bounced on its way down the hill."
First off. Isnt rock kicking a little easier to accomplish, one becasue we see rock kicking happening every day, and two we do not see evolution happeneing every day.
Also that was whole paragraph was based of the assumption that the rock was kicked. Just like scientists assume evolution to be true and then go out to prove it. Im not defending creationist's and their biases im just pointing outthat scientists ahvethem as well
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Just as you assume you're not in the Matrix.
Rock kicking may be easier to accomplish, but to assume that a particular rock at the base of a particular hill has been kicked (as opposed to may having rolled down by the weather), is not.
Rock kicking may be easier to accomplish, but to assume that a particular rock at the base of a particular hill has been kicked (as opposed to may having rolled down by the weather), is not.
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OK ... good point. But you assume that everything evolved. Its not like one animal just appeared while others did not. ALso, we still do not see evolution happening today, do we? It we do please tell me when it was recoded. WE do see rock kicking happening today so its a totally differnent argument.
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