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An Epistle of Apostleship

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Here's an age old question, which might be unanswerable but by the Holy Spirit. What are the defining features of an apostle, other than being ordained of God?

Some believe that it was those who have seen Jesus, those who work miracles with unusual capacity, those who are pioneers to a certain thread of faith. I think it's someone who is sent of God to perform a work. Any one have any other impressions or descriptions of an apostle?

Apostles: Wigglesworth? Price? Luther?

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deg said:
Here's an age old question, which might be unanswerable but by the Holy Spirit. What are the defining features of an apostle, other than being ordained of God?

Some believe that it was those who have seen Jesus, those who work miracles with unusual capacity, those who are pioneers to a certain thread of faith. I think it's someone who is sent of God to perform a work. Any one have any other impressions or descriptions of an apostle?

Apostles: Wigglesworth? Price? Luther?

In Him,
Deg
The defining features? I'm not sure I understand totally. . .but that's par for the course :)

There seems to be a lot of people within the Charasmatic/Penticostal/Word of Faith/etc movements that have the title "apostle", and sometimes I have wondered . . .why do they call themselves an apostle? In the NT, I believe they were characterized by their service to the body in teaching and servanthood. Travelling took them to many places where new churches were started by them and they became the overseer of that church.
 
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Scary thought: "We wouldn't even believe resurrected Paul"

Ok forget defining features; probably the wrong use of words. Have we ever met someone who we recognize as an ordained man or woman of God? I don't just mean anyone who has been allowed into this beautiful umbrella of Grace. There seem to be certain ones who are selected, chosen. They have little or no choice in their salvation, although they are fulfilling their life desires while serving Him. Divinely constructed desires, perhaps, but not really my point.

There certainly are many who are called, and many answer that call. There are, however, certain people who are not called, but something more. These people are of special purpose (not more loved, just different office), and I have only met one person who I think comes close to this description. He is no apostle. He is certainly a prophet (confirmed a few things to me personally about a divine dream, really incredible story, but I digress), and there is something so different about his speech. The words are the same, the demeanor the same as any other person, and yet....

In his presence I feel as though I owe him respect for absolutely no reason. It is the most unusual and yet natural feeling, and it certainly isn't oppressive. It's almost a joy to serve him. What a backward thought! Usually my members war against my desire to serve, but not for this man. I want to listen to every word he says; I want to let every single syllable drop into my spirit and send ripples through my being. It is something incredibly divine, and I cannot seem to put my finger on it. I should wonder what the words of an apostle are like!

I wonder, what makes this so? This man has not performed more than a simple word of knowledge to me, and yet I am reverent! What is the mark of apostleship? I don't wish to know their works or organizational position, but there is something undeniably unique about a man of God who is chosen. Have we met people like this? Why are there not more in the bride who has such soiled wedding clothes? Where have the modern day apostles gone? Perhaps they have left our western world which is so innoculated with unbelief: we've had the spirituality blessed out of us! What do you all think? Are we missing things we shouldn't be? Is the NT truly our "apostle"? In the words of the Ethiopian: "How should I understand unless someone teach me?"
 
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Brother Rupert,

Don't delete your message! I thought it was interesting, and the fact that you're right was scary (the resurrected Paul thing). Very interesting perspective, but I still feel a burning need for the modern day servant of the Most High to step forward. We need people who know the Lord as John did, who walked on water as Peter did, we need the men who inspire and spread Divine Fire with unhindered passion and anointing. Where are these people? Do we not still have need of these pillars of truth?

In Him,
Deg
 
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Greetings,

I am deeply touched by this thread..

Have faith and patience... the building of prophets and apostles is a long and drawn out process, and if the Lord sends them too quick, they will be destroyed by the task they have at hand.

The Lord give you peace..

Please know, He hears your prayers.


His servant,
stacie
 
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