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The bible does not say that the covenant was changed because of the law. NEVER!!!It's not that any of us claim one commandment us more or less important than another. I say that none of the ten commandments are required simply because they were in the ten commandments given to the Israelites as part of their covenant. If Christ taught similar things to some of them as part of a new covenant, that does not automatically re-enact the old one.
I don't think you realize that you're quoting from a passage that condemns Adventism.Jesus does not share your claim. Mat 7:
21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. ("Listed" would be interested in this part)
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Your opening statement is incoherent of the very epistle you cite for support.The bible does not say that the covenant was changed because of the law. NEVER!!!
Heb 8: 8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
The bible says that the fault was with the Jews. They did not keep they part of the covenant. Can we not see that?????
You don't keep the Sabbath.It is clear that your stumbling block is the Sabbath. If you read Exodus 16 you will find that that is the test of obedience. That is the only command that is challenged and God knew that. Ex 16:
4Then said the Lord unto Moses, Behold, I will rain bread from heaven for you; and the people shall go out and gather a certain rate every day, that I may prove them, whether they will walk in my law, or no.
5 And it shall come to pass, that on the sixth day they shall prepare that which they bring in; and it shall be twice as much as they gather daily.
The test of obedience to God was and is the Sabbath. You must admit that none of the other 10 presents a problem for Christians even to those that claim they are abolished.
You don't keep the Sabbath.
You don't even have the Sabbath.
And, it hasn't led you towards God's "My rest" those who were charged with the Sabbath hadn't attained during the Law's tenure.
First the law is the covenant made with Israel alone at Sinai.The bible does not say that the covenant was changed because of the law. NEVER!!!
Heb 8: 8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
The bible says that the fault was with the Jews. They did not keep they part of the covenant. Can we not see that?????
Steen07
The Key to the Christian Life is found at Mount Calvary not Mount Sinai.
Elder111
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
Jesus does not share your claim. Mat 7:
21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. ("Listed" would be interested in this part)
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
Not at all for instance you do not adhere to Ex 20:8-11. You do keep an amended version though. This has been well discussed here in this forum.
Your linked post asserts the basic tenets of Judaism - and deny God's redemption that is the basis of Christianity. Adding insult to your injury...
...you don't keep the Sabbath. Your testimony and performance are irreconcilable, and deny the righteousness of God.3rd January 2015, 07:19 AM
Very nice smoke screen. It unfortunately does not provide the cover you seek because it is more than evident it is not believed nor practiced.Steen07
The Key to the Christian Life is found at Mount Calvary not Mount Sinai.
Elder111
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
Why do you promote the covenant of law over its replacement covenant of unconditional promises?Well, I am sure we agree to disagree.
But we also agree on another thing: I do not think any commandment of God is more, or less important than any others. Whatever began with, "And the Lord said," or, "And the Lord God commanded," and/or, "And Christ said" is a commandment.
For that reason, I am non-denominational. You will not find me heralding the 4th commandment over the 6th, or the second commandment over the ninth. All of them are of equal merit to me, because if I unrepentantly break any of them, the temperature of the hell fire is the same in degrees and celcius.
But, I also do not think sole obedience to the law gains one salvation. That is a mistake of the pharisees.
If that doesn't clear things up, then any more words I present - especially in addition to the other words I have said - WI be futility, and a possible stumbling block or antagonizing sore to you and others.
I mean exactly what I say, and have said.
You must be saying the 10 Cs were placed in the Ark of the Testimony. I find engraved stone tablets placed there. If it were not for Book of the law placed on the outside you would not know about them.You did not notice the "ark of the testimony"? Only the ten were called such and only the ten were in the ark.
Why do you think I would be interested in that part?Jesus does not share your claim. Mat 7:
21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. ("Listed" would be interested in this part)
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
It is clear that your stumbling block is the Sabbath. If you read Exodus 16 you will find that that is the test of obedience. That is the only command that is challenged and God knew that. Ex 16:
4Then said the Lord unto Moses, Behold, I will rain bread from heaven for you; and the people shall go out and gather a certain rate every day, that I may prove them, whether they will walk in my law, or no.
5 And it shall come to pass, that on the sixth day they shall prepare that which they bring in; and it shall be twice as much as they gather daily.
The test of obedience to God was and is the Sabbath. You must admit that none of the other 10 presents a problem for Christians even to those that claim they are abolished.
You did not notice the "ark of the testimony"? Only the ten were called such and only the ten were in the ark.
The bible does not say that the covenant was changed because of the law. NEVER!!!
Heb 8: 8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
The bible says that the fault was with the Jews. They did not keep they part of the covenant. Can we not see that?????
Why? Because the law that say we should have no other God is obsolete? Because the law that says we should not kill is obsolete. Or because for one as shown in Heb 7, that Christ is the new High priest which was not of the tribe of Levi? Which is of the law of the priesthood and not the ten commandments.Your opening statement is incoherent of the very epistle you cite for support.
- The law ordained by the first covenant demanded change (Hebrews 7:12)
- It was annulled (v.7:18)
- It was charged with a fault that called for a new covenant (v.8:7)
- It was rendered obsolete and ready to vanish away (v.8:13)
- Jesus redeemed our transgressions under the first covenant and is now the Mediator of the new covenant (v.9:15)
- He took the first covenant away by His own Hand, in order to establish that new covenant (v.10:9)
If we take your point at face value, we have that God removed the command not to serve any other god or lie and steal because He changed the law to promises and granting mercy and grace. So instead of thou should no other god we have a promise, of what may I ask? Instill of thou shall not kill we have Grace to lie perhaps? Instead of thou shall not steal we have mercy for the victim. This is the mockery you make of the word of God.First the law is the covenant made with Israel alone at Sinai.
Second God said He was going to change the covenant (law).
Third God did change the covenant. This change was from law to promises and the granting of mercy also called grace (unmerited favor).
So excuse me please. Is not obeying God doing His will? To worship God only as in the first commandments is not doing His will??? Come on speak up!!Those who are trusting in themselves and in what they are doing or not doing are not doing the will of God. It is only those who are living by faith in Jesus Christ; being receptive to Him and His activity, trusting and depending upon Him, who are doing the will of God.
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