Lord Emsworth
Je ne suis pas une de vos élèves.
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Would that work for the watch theory?
you are making the case here that god has no free will. Is that what you want to do?
you are making the case here that god has no free will. Is that what you want to do?
He is saying if a god wanted to create intelligent life like himself for some companionship, that all have complete free will, he would have had to know how it starts, how it goes along and how it ends.
Nonsense.
Simple rules obviously give rise to complex, even completely unpredictable behavior.
An example of a hard, but still deterministic simple rule set would be Go or Chess. The rules are simple, the implications for strategy and board position explode.
You don't need to be a genius to invent chess or go or to learn the rules, but it's not possible to know all outcomes.
You don't get it. God is outside of time. He already saw the game and knows the moves and the winner.
You don't get it. God is outside of time. He already saw the game and knows the moves and the winner.
A omnipresent, omnipotent God whose creation is always said to be a world with mistakes. Yet, Christians know God knows the beginning and the end, that God has purpose for everything. I would like to hear how someone (atheist, or anyone), how they would do it differently; and let both science and theology pick apart at the suggestions based on facts today.
Example:
Joe the atheist: I would make the earth without grass; grass was a bad idea.
Joanne the atheist or creationist: What would the cows eat?
Joe the atheist: people
Berry: People?; so the people that remain don't have the strength to slaughter these beasts?
And so on...............
I will start with:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. (John 1:1-3 KJV)
Yes.So he already knew that millions of children would die agonizing deaths due to disease before he even started?
So he already knew that millions of children would die agonizing deaths due to disease before he even started?
He can also speak outside of time.God saw it? 'Saw' is past tense. How can past tense apply to something that is outside of time?
Death of our earthly bodies only. No one really dies. We are eternal beings.
Like I said, you can't see the ending, can you?
So why make children suffer agony when it isn't needed?
Adam and Eves sin is the cause, not God.
Your question is rather, why doesn't God stop the suffering?
If everyone turned to God on the entire Earth and followed His word, I would bet all suffering of any kind would cease.
If everyone turned to God on the entire Earth and followed His word, I would bet all suffering of any kind would cease.
If everyone turned to God on the entire Earth and followed His word, I would bet all suffering of any kind would cease.
Yeah, no evil if I was god. See how simple that was?So, would there be evil still? You seem to be able to reveal yourself to all humans, yet in the case for God, they would die if He revealed Himself. Before there was a good system like WELFARE (lol), you believe that it's wrong to work for a place to sleep and eat, and for someone to provide that in return for work?
You say you would prohibit rape? The bible does also. Capital punishment was the cure for rape. A man having sex with a unmarried women who has been found doing so, was required to marry the girl. Remember people were not 35 when they got married.
I like the updating of your Holy Book. But it sounds much like the laws of the US, being changed every time someone has a new sexual fetish. Do you think eventually the only laws that are created are only boundaries for the sins that they allow?
So, you have no arch enemy that means everyone loves you? Would there be such thing as free choice in your world then? If so, when disease is rampant and 90% of the world are infected with a deadly disease; how would you protect the %10 left from the 90%?
Is He now?Then God is immoral.
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