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Yes or no, if god knows I'll choose the coke, can I choose the Pepsi?
Wrong. If your god knows beforehand the coke will be bought then the option of not buying the coke does not exist. But without your god the fate of the coke is unknown and depends only on the person's freewill.
Ya ... how 'bout that?
Omniscience ≠ omnipotence.
Omniscience ≠ force.
Omniscience ≠ cause and effect.
Of course you can, but then your "god knows I'll choose the coke" is a smokescreen to rant about cause-and-effect and misplaced blame.
Ya ... ain't that something?Your omniscient god had a choice whether or not to create the universe knowing exactly what would happen.
Imagine that!In making that choice he exercised omnipotence, force, and cause and effect. No one else.
Of course you can, but then your "god knows I'll choose the coke" is a smokescreen to rant about cause-and-effect and misplaced blame.
So you can buy the pepsi even though your god thinks that the coke will be bought. Your god can get it wrong? That's new.
Ya ... ain't that something?
God is not going to bow to sin and let sin prevent Him from creating a perfect universe, is He?
Imagine that!
I don't think it was us that gave this god the quality of omniscience.
Just buy a 7-Up and quit think-tanking yourselves into a stupor.
How's that?
You guys are drowning in a think-tank of paradoxes and refusing to take our hands to pull you out.
Of course, it's your choice.
That's right.
And you won't take it from Him, either.
Of course you can, but then your "god knows I'll choose the coke" is a smokescreen to rant about cause-and-effect and misplaced blame.
I believe even you called it a "paradox," did you not?It's not, its just a demonstration of why the two ideas are incompatible.
I believe even you called it a "paradox," did you not?
Then you argue as if it is a contradiction.
In my opinion ... well ... just buy a 7-Up and spare us the philosophy.
Sorry, can't do that, it's all been pre-ordained by your god, old boy.
Of course he does not believe it that's why he wrote 'pre-ordained by your god'.If you really believed that, by definition, you wouldn't be an atheist.
So if you don't believe it, do you mind if I don't believe it, either?
Actually that's not what I said. I said god knows I'll buy the coke. I'll make this easy...
Yes or no, if god knows I'll choose the coke, can I choose the Pepsi? Just keep in mind its the day before and I haven't decided yet....
You still have free will in heaven. But it will be as Adam and Eve were created to be. Innocent for lack of a better word. Not tempted.
You can still whatever you want to. Except for sinful behavior like killing, stealing, getting drunk, etc. I don't know about you but I don't do too much sinning here on earth and I like my life. Maybe you do bad things or you like it. That is something you'll have to think hard about.
The creationist desperation here is almost palpable.You still have free will in heaven. But it will be as Adam and Eve were created to be. Innocent for lack of a better word. Not tempted.
You can still whatever you want to. Except for sinful behavior like killing, stealing, getting drunk, etc. I don't know about you but I don't do too much sinning here on earth and I like my life. Maybe you do bad things or you like it. That is something you'll have to think hard about.
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