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<blockquote data-quote="Occams Barber" data-source="post: 74463720" data-attributes="member: 313365"><p>This is also another American myth</p><p></p><p>From Wikipedia '<em><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socioeconomic_mobility_in_the_United_States" target="_blank">Socioeconomic mobility in the United States</a>'</em></p><p><em></em></p><p style="margin-left: 20px"><em>Several large studies of mobility in developed countries in recent years have found <strong>the US among the lowest in mobility</strong>.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socioeconomic_mobility_in_the_United_States#cite_note-DeParle-3" target="_blank">[3]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socioeconomic_mobility_in_the_United_States#cite_note-CAP-18" target="_blank">[18]</a> One study (“Do Poor Children Become Poor Adults?")<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socioeconomic_mobility_in_the_United_States#cite_note-CAP-18" target="_blank">[18]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socioeconomic_mobility_in_the_United_States#cite_note-emp-16" target="_blank">[16]</a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socioeconomic_mobility_in_the_United_States#cite_note-25" target="_blank">[25]</a> found that <strong>of nine developed countries, the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States" target="_blank">United States</a> and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom" target="_blank">United Kingdom</a> had the lowest intergenerational vertical social mobility </strong>with about half of the advantages of having a parent with a high income passed on to the next generation. The four countries with the lowest "intergenerational income elasticity", i.e. the highest social mobility, were <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark" target="_blank">Denmark</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway" target="_blank">Norway</a>, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland" target="_blank">Finland</a>, and <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada" target="_blank">Canada</a> with less than 20% of advantages of having a high income parent passed on to their children. (see graph)<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socioeconomic_mobility_in_the_United_States#cite_note-CAP-18" target="_blank">[18]</a> <strong>Nobel Prize-winning economist <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stiglitz" target="_blank">Joseph Stiglitz</a> contends that "Scandinavian countries changed their education systems, social policies and legal frameworks to create societies where there is a higher degree of mobility. That made their countries more into the land of opportunity that America once was."<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socioeconomic_mobility_in_the_United_States#cite_note-26" target="_blank">[26]</a></strong></em></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"><em></em></p><p>OB</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Occams Barber, post: 74463720, member: 313365"] This is also another American myth From Wikipedia '[I][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socioeconomic_mobility_in_the_United_States']Socioeconomic mobility in the United States[/URL]' [/I] [INDENT][I]Several large studies of mobility in developed countries in recent years have found [B]the US among the lowest in mobility[/B].[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socioeconomic_mobility_in_the_United_States#cite_note-DeParle-3'][3][/URL][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socioeconomic_mobility_in_the_United_States#cite_note-CAP-18'][18][/URL] One study (“Do Poor Children Become Poor Adults?")[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socioeconomic_mobility_in_the_United_States#cite_note-CAP-18'][18][/URL][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socioeconomic_mobility_in_the_United_States#cite_note-emp-16'][16][/URL][URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socioeconomic_mobility_in_the_United_States#cite_note-25'][25][/URL] found that [B]of nine developed countries, the [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States']United States[/URL] and [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom']United Kingdom[/URL] had the lowest intergenerational vertical social mobility [/B]with about half of the advantages of having a parent with a high income passed on to the next generation. The four countries with the lowest "intergenerational income elasticity", i.e. the highest social mobility, were [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denmark']Denmark[/URL], [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway']Norway[/URL], [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finland']Finland[/URL], and [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada']Canada[/URL] with less than 20% of advantages of having a high income parent passed on to their children. (see graph)[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socioeconomic_mobility_in_the_United_States#cite_note-CAP-18'][18][/URL] [B]Nobel Prize-winning economist [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stiglitz']Joseph Stiglitz[/URL] contends that "Scandinavian countries changed their education systems, social policies and legal frameworks to create societies where there is a higher degree of mobility. That made their countries more into the land of opportunity that America once was."[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socioeconomic_mobility_in_the_United_States#cite_note-26'][26][/URL][/B] [/I][/INDENT] OB [/QUOTE]
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