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Amazing Facts and 3ABN merger? When?

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It is true that 3abn and AF have merged. But Doug B. is not taking charge of 3abn, neither is Danny taking charge of AF. They are still working these details out. If you want the TRUTH of the matter, phone 3abn and find out.
According to both A-Facts and 3ABN, this is not true.

There has been no merger. Only the idea has been approved. Once the details have been worked out and both sides have agreed to those details, only then will there be a merger, if ...
 
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According to both A-Facts and 3ABN, this is not true.

There has been no merger. Only the idea has been approved. Once the details have been worked out and both sides have agreed to those details, only then will there be a merger, if ...


Why pick at what and when...the intent to merge is there, both in their press releases and on the live last week. Some major details have already been agreed on and others have yet to be ironed out. There are certain stipulations and safeguards that have been agreed on and more in the works, for both ministries. Everything will be contractual.
I am amazed at the desperation for every teeny tiny detail of the merge. These things take lots of time. Everyone should just drop the speculations and ficticious stories, sit back and relax and when things are finished, I am quite sure, there will more press releases.
 
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Why pick at what and when...the intent to merge is there, both in their press releases and on the live last week. Some major details have already been agreed on and others have yet to be ironed out. There are certain stipulations and safeguards that have been agreed on and more in the works, for both ministries. Everything will be contractual.
I am amazed at the desperation for every teeny tiny detail of the merge. These things take lots of time. Everyone should just drop the speculations and ficticious stories, sit back and relax and when things are finished, I am quite sure, there will more press releases.

Doug does disclose the message in a very positive way, as if to imply that this will certainly happen.
 
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Personally, I see this as a great move designed by the Creator Himself. If you look at the fruits of 3ABN and Amazing Facts it's not hard to see where they will compliment each other in preaching the gospel to the whole world. I praise God for His work in this and pray for His soon return. All the filth and depravity of this sinful world are weighing down the very elite of God's remnant. It hurts my heart to see our people fighting on this forum. Let's all pray for peace in our church family and stay focused on the Creator as we approach the last moments of earth's history.

God Bless you all,
Jim Larmore
 
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Fighting on this forum?

I don't call disagreeing with one another over something "fighting!" Now, if we are disagreeing disagreeably, then that could be construed as fighting, which I trust none of us professing Christians would actually be doing that.

I am all for the merger, especially if there will be a new constituency, a new board with changes, a new beginning so to speak, etc.
 
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Fighting on this forum?

I don't call disagreeing with one another over something "fighting!" Now, if we are disagreeing disagreeably, then that could be construed as fighting, which I trust none of us professing Christians would actually be doing that.

I am all for the merger, especially if there will be a new constituency, a new board with changes, a new beginning so to speak, etc.

You don't think people professing christianity would do that? I can't imagine how you could say such a thing when you have hung out at bsda. On the topic of 3abn, over there, there is more non christian remarks going on than christian, by far.
Sorry, no "new" beginning as far as day to day operations. The "new" will be in "new" ways to globalize the gospel.
 
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You don't think people professing christianity would do that? I can't imagine how you could say such a thing when you have hung out at bsda. On the topic of 3abn, over there, there is more non christian remarks going on than christian, by far.
Sorry, no "new" beginning as far as day to day operations. The "new" will be in "new" ways to globalize the gospel.


Wow, turns out Linda's new attorney is a mover and a shaker. NOT. He had the audacity to show up in court to defend Linda on the marital property case, without having an IL license to practice law. The judge ask him point blank at the beginning if he was licensed in the state of IL to which he answered YES YOUR HONOR. Ds's attorneys then brought forth proof that we was not licensed to practice in IL. When confronted, well, he had tried and he had moved a lot and blah blah. The judge would not hear the case and advised Mrs. Shelton to get a "licensed" attorney before returning to court.

Ds's attorney knew from the beginning that he wasn't licensed in IL and just waited to see if he would play it out...and he did.....

Yes, 3abn, DS and AF need to bar the doors, with this guy coming on....
 
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tomatoe,

If by being there, and even here, as Jimlarmore has stated in his post here, you are accusing me, then you had better accuse yourself also, as you have certainly been here where it hadn't been much better, if at all better, than there.
 
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My dear brothers and sisters in Christ,

First, I would ask each of you to cease the criticisim of each other and demonstrate a more Christ-like attutide toward each other. The only one who benefits from such dialogue is Satan himself.

As someone who has stood close enough to the fire to feel the heat let me share a few observations on this topic.

The first thing that should be noted is what we know what has been made public by the principals involved. We know from public discloser that Danny made repeated attempts to get Doug to agree to becoming involved at 3ABN. Doug repeatedly turned him down.

On April 17, 2007, 3ABN held a board of director's meeting where the decision to ask Amazing Facts to merge with 3ABN was approved by a unanimous vote. The following day, April 18, 2007, Danny flew to Sacramento, California to convey that information to AF. Also on that date AF convened a meeting of its board of directors to consider the proposed merger. The merger was approved by the board with the clear understanding that there were logicstics to be worked out.

The following day, April 19, 2007, Danny and Doug flew back to 3ABN to participate in a live broadcast and publicly anounce the proposed merger.

There are some things about that broadcast that should be noted. The broadcast was done in two one hour segements. During the first hour Danny acted as host and Doug was priamerily a guest. Also present during the first hour was the Chairman of the Board for 3ABN as well as other current members of leadership at 3ABN. Danny repeatedly made comment that he was willing to relinquish the presidency of 3ABN in favor of the merger. Doug made no comment to confirm or to deney Danny's remarks. He did however affirm the desire for the merger to take place.

At the begining of the second hour there was a noticable shift in the group dynamics. Doug was placed in the host chair and Danny was in the guest chair. The Chairman of the 3ABN board, as well some of the other 3ABN staff, had been replaced by new faces in the group. During the second hour the general tenor of the broadcast changed also. As someone that has participated in many boards over my liftime I have learned the importance of reading group dynamics.

There are two other things that may not be so well known. On Wedensday evening, after the AF board meeting, the Sacramento Centeral SDA Church where Doug is Senior Pastor, held a church board meeting. During that meeting Doug anounced the planned merger and as a result, that there would be a shift in his responsibilities at Sac. Centeral. On Sabbath April 21, 2007, Doug personaly made the anouncement of the merger to the Sac. Centeral congregation. He also assured them that he was not leaving the pastorate at Sac. Centeral, nor was he or AF moving to IL.

In addition to the foregoing there are, two very important phrases or terms that have been used in all of this as noted in previous post. They are "a new board will be formed," and "a new constituency." This clearly indicates a new direction with different support.

It is this writer's belief that there will be other anouncements about things that have taken place behind the scenes to facilitate this merger as well other personel changes at 3ABN.

We would all do well to spend much time in prayer for the sucessuful outcome of this merger so that we may indeed "...preach the gospel unto all the world" as quickly as possible.

Respectfully, your brother in Christ,
Doc
 
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Wow, turns out Linda's new attorney is a mover and a shaker. NOT. He had the audacity to show up in court to defend Linda on the marital property case, without having an IL license to practice law. The judge ask him point blank at the beginning if he was licensed in the state of IL to which he answered YES YOUR HONOR. Ds's attorneys then brought forth proof that we was not licensed to practice in IL. When confronted, well, he had tried and he had moved a lot and blah blah. The judge would not hear the case and advised Mrs. Shelton to get a "licensed" attorney before returning to court.

Ds's attorney knew from the beginning that he wasn't licensed in IL and just waited to see if he would play it out...and he did.....

Yes, 3abn, DS and AF need to bar the doors, with this guy coming on....
Thank you tomatoe for posting this interesting information. Sounds like their lawyer isn't with the program very well.

But I do appreciate you posting this on here.
 
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My dear brothers and sisters in Christ,

First, I would ask each of you to cease the criticisim of each other and demonstrate a more Christ-like attutide toward each other. The only one who benefits from such dialogue is Satan himself.

As someone who has stood close enough to the fire to feel the heat let me share a few observations on this topic.

The first thing that should be noted is what we know what has been made public by the principals involved. We know from public discloser that Danny made repeated attempts to get Doug to agree to becoming involved at 3ABN. Doug repeatedly turned him down.

On April 17, 2007, 3ABN held a board of director's meeting where the decision to ask Amazing Facts to merge with 3ABN was approved by a unanimous vote. The following day, April 18, 2007, Danny flew to Sacramento, California to convey that information to AF. Also on that date AF convened a meeting of its board of directors to consider the proposed merger. The merger was approved by the board with the clear understanding that there were logicstics to be worked out.

The following day, April 19, 2007, Danny and Doug flew back to 3ABN to participate in a live broadcast and publicly anounce the proposed merger.

There are some things about that broadcast that should be noted. The broadcast was done in two one hour segements. During the first hour Danny acted as host and Doug was priamerily a guest. Also present during the first hour was the Chairman of the Board for 3ABN as well as other current members of leadership at 3ABN. Danny repeatedly made comment that he was willing to relinquish the presidency of 3ABN in favor of the merger. Doug made no comment to confirm or to deney Danny's remarks. He did however affirm the desire for the merger to take place.

At the begining of the second hour there was a noticable shift in the group dynamics. Doug was placed in the host chair and Danny was in the guest chair. The Chairman of the 3ABN board, as well some of the other 3ABN staff, had been replaced by new faces in the group. During the second hour the general tenor of the broadcast changed also. As someone that has participated in many boards over my liftime I have learned the importance of reading group dynamics.

There are two other things that may not be so well known. On Wedensday evening, after the AF board meeting, the Sacramento Centeral SDA Church where Doug is Senior Pastor, held a church board meeting. During that meeting Doug anounced the planned merger and as a result, that there would be a shift in his responsibilities at Sac. Centeral. On Sabbath April 21, 2007, Doug personaly made the anouncement of the merger to the Sac. Centeral congregation. He also assured them that he was not leaving the pastorate at Sac. Centeral, nor was he or AF moving to IL.

In addition to the foregoing there are, two very important phrases or terms that have been used in all of this as noted in previous post. They are "a new board will be formed," and "a new constituency." This clearly indicates a new direction with different support.

It is this writer's belief that there will be other anouncements about things that have taken place behind the scenes to facilitate this merger as well other personel changes at 3ABN.

We would all do well to spend much time in prayer for the sucessuful outcome of this merger so that we may indeed "...preach the gospel unto all the world" as quickly as possible.

Respectfully, your brother in Christ,
Doc


That's good that you understand the dynamics because so does DS. He is the one that made the decisions of how they would start and with who sitting where, and he also made the 2nd hour decision to change up the seating arrangements.
Also you spin the story as if Danny had been "begging" Doug for years to come to 3abn when in actuality, it is something that had been tossed around as a kind of an open invitation to Doug to come on board. Doug had so many responsiblities, things just didn't fall in place for him until now. No, I am sorry, the leadership changes you are looking for are not going to happen. If everyone would just use a little common sense here: Danny INVITED this merger. Now, would he have done that and would he have offered for Doug to take the title of president, knowing then, that Doug would have the power to kick him out? Of course not. That is what contracts are for. That is what safeguards are for. All of those will be in place before there is a merge. Common sense people common sense.
 
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Thank you tomatoe for posting this interesting information. Sounds like their lawyer isn't with the program very well.

But I do appreciate you posting this on here.


You are welcome. And those that choose to, can try to minimize what happened but the proof is "in the pudding" as they say. The court proceedings did not continue as planned because he did not have a current license number. DS's attorney ask for the whole thing to be thrown out because of it but the judge didn't think that would be fair to mrs. shelton who, he figured, didn't know he wasn't licensed for IL
 
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But obviously this lawyer won't hesitate to lie even to a judge. He was asked if he had his Illinois license to practice and he said YES! That was a bold-faced lie. This tells me something about this man's character.

Now if the license was "in the making" he should have said so to the Judge...he should have said to the Judge "No I do not have my license but it is coming soon, I'm just waiting on paperwork."

But no, He answered YES, no doubt thinking Danny's lawyers were not capable to doing their jobs. I'm just sorry the Judge didn't throw it out totally.

But tomatoe--can you tell me why Linda is taking Danny to court again? What does she want? Why is she suing Danny?
 
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