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LOL.
You know, for some reason, you reminded me of last night's Simpson's episode, in which the Gollum was the primary event.
You ain't made o' mud are you?
One thing I like about this Hebrew/English interlinear is I can found out where Exact forms of both hebrew/greek words are used elsewhere.Ah here is the verse about Amalek always being in every generation:
Exodus 17:16 For he said, Because the LORD hath sworn that the LORD will have war with Amalek from generation to generation.
I knew it was in there somewhere! Hehehehe
Says the woman living in a country founded by traitors.
No, you are only a traitor when you lose.Says the woman living in a country founded by traitors.
Shalom. What is your view of Zech 13:5?
http://www.scripture4all.org/
Zechariah 13:5 And he says 'Not a-prophet I, man tilling ground/0127 'adamah I, that adam he-caused-me-to-acquire/07069 qanah from youths of me".
And he says to him: "what the smitings/04347 makkah, these, between hands of you"? And he says "which I was smitten/05221 nakah House of lovers/0157 'ahab of me".
JohnD:
I suppose 12 pages of posts is a lot to expect a late comer to read!
Amalek was one of Israel's adversaries in early biblical times. But there was something different about the Amalekites that set them apart from all of Israel's other foes: The Amalekites were essentially a terrorist culture, meaning they targeted the innocent. The would not confront Israel in battle. Rather, the Amalekites would lie in wait for stragglers as Israel moved through the land: the old, the sick, the women and children. Rather than fighting Israel's soldiers, the Amalekites targeted those who quite specifically were not fighters and could not fight. For that reason, HaShem told Israel NOT TO FORGET how the Amalekites terrorized them as the left Egypt and moved into Canaan. HaShem gave quite a different instructions regarding the Amalekites than ANY OTHER enemy -- the Amalekites were to be killed down to the very last woman and child, and none of their goods or gold or livestock was to be taken or profited from.
Amalek has come to mean those who fulfill BOTH of the following criteria:
1. They seek the destruction of the Jews
2. They target the innocent.
Hitler and the nazis, for example, meet both of those criteria, and are considered the "Amalek" of the 20th century.
Hamas would be an example of a current group which meets both these criteria.
So in the same way the Jews dealt with the Amalkelites, are you willing to deal with the Palestinians in the same manner? Would you join the Israeli army and go on a campaign of eradicating every single Palestinian? Are you prepared to ravage their women, chop off their children's heads, and kill off the disabled elderly? It was done in the Old Testament, so is it ok to do it now? Yes or no. Let's just get to the point of your OP.
If that heppens, then the victors write the history. It is as it has always been.So, if Palestine wins and does manage to destroy Israel, would you say that they weren't terrorists?
In that case, the Romans were victors over the 1st century Jews but Josephus appears to be the only one that wrote about. Interesting.If that heppens, then the victors write the history. It is as it has always been.
Listen carefully (for the umpteenth time): Israel does not TARGET INNOCENTS.
There are many ways to target innocents, not just suicide bombers, but Israel does none of them. Israel has a policy opposed to the targeting of innocents.
The "Palestinians" are not a people, but a mish mosh of arabs and persians and africaners who are Muslim, Christian, secular, and mostly renegades
I hope this has educated you somewhat.
I didn't say one way or the other. I have not made a decision.
I am bothered by the issue. That is why I began the thread.
Actually, "the left" has nothing whatsoever to do with it, in spite of being America's favourite scapegoat for just about anything.Yes, I've heard that one. One of the most stupid things the left says.
Actually, "the left" has nothing whatsoever to do with it, in spite of being America's favourite scapegoat for just about anything.
It's a perfectly observable phenomenon anywhere.
Guess what the Nazis called the Resistance - yeah, right: "terrorists".
What did the British have to say about the Indians seeking independence?
And how did the Romans rationalize their conquests and their atrocities against countries all around the Mediterranean? They were just "protecting their homeland".
That's not to say that terrorists are always right - quite the contrary. I think what the Palestinians have been doing, especially from the 1970s onwards, has put them in the wrong. Abducting planes, bombing buses, schools and street cafés, having snipers shoot at kibbuzim - all of that deserves harsh judgement.
I also feel that this conflict could have ended in the late 1940s, when the UN encouraged the warring factions in current-day Israel to found two separate states: Israel and Palestine, with Jerusalem as a neutral zone. The Israelis were okay with that - the Palestinians weren't.
For them, it was always about "driving the Jews into the sea". And that's why I can't support their cause, in spite of the maltreatment they undoubtedly received time and again.
Had they pulled a Gandhi instead, specializing in non-violent resistance, their position would certainly be stronger and more convincing. Yet with all the gun-waving, I can only see them as the cause of violence rather than merely its victims.
You forgot they are also a mish mosh of Jews too.
Somewhat, but how about providing links supporting your claim.
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