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Am I on the right track?

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I am starting to come to the conclusion that my understanding of the world around me is flawed. I lack knowledge of what the meaning of life is, or if there is even one.

It is because of trust that we come to our conclusions. As an non believer I could trust that a Universe might have always existed. I can read literature that would support such concepts and apply them as being more truthful than the Bible because of trust, but no one can say with honesty they knew what came before the Big Bang, it is all guesses, regardless if they are educated or not. If I were to place the emphasis of my trust that the Bible is the Truth, then I might come closer to God, and build a strong faith out of that trust. I've been trying to come to terms with God, but it would appear that I can not do that. To come to terms with God would mean I bring him down at my level. Instead I must admit I just do not know and trust in him to guide me.

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In all this, you want a relationship more than answers. Answers are never enough. God wants your heart as much as your intellect. You are a rational being for sure. God desires a relationship built out of love. Love that He hs shown can be trusted. He has already sent His Son for you.

"Be still and know that I am God." It is not a arm-wrestling as you have proposed. It is like a father looking down on his newborn. The newborn has no understanding. Trust will come in time as he realizes the father loves him. It is that simple and the big bangs will follow.

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I am starting to come to the conclusion that my understanding of the world around me is flawed. I lack knowledge of what the meaning of life is, or if there is even one.
A sign of intelligence!!! Only a fool believes that he understands everything and has all the answers.
Being able to admit this to yourself and others is a sign of humility, stick around, I feel things may begin to change for you, good luck and welcome!
 
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I am starting to come to the conclusion that my understanding of the world around me is flawed. I lack knowledge of what the meaning of life is, or if there is even one.
If God doesn't exist, and we were created by an accident, there is no "meaning of life" past our own fancies. Except some human-defined meaning, but which humans would define that meaning?

It is because of trust that we come to our conclusions. As an non believer I could trust that a Universe might have always existed. I can read literature that would support such concepts and apply them as being more truthful than the Bible because of trust, but no one can say with honesty they knew what came before the Big Bang, it is all guesses, regardless if they are educated or not. If I were to place the emphasis of my trust that the Bible is the Truth, then I might come closer to God, and build a strong faith out of that trust. I've been trying to come to terms with God, but it would appear that I can not do that. To come to terms with God would mean I bring him down at my level. Instead I must admit I just do not know and trust in him to guide me.

What do you think?
I think you know both more and less than you realize. ;)

You don't necessarily have to bring God down to your level, but you do have to bring yourself down from God's and to your real level. That is, if God exists, then He truly is God, not you.

That being said:
I've found, personally and in the Bible, that God works in the way of "faith now, proof later."
Trust as if you didn't need proof, and then you will have it.
The faith of a child.
 
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I am starting to come to the conclusion that my understanding of the world around me is flawed. I lack knowledge of what the meaning of life is, or if there is even one.

It is because of trust that we come to our conclusions. As an non believer I could trust that a Universe might have always existed. I can read literature that would support such concepts and apply them as being more truthful than the Bible because of trust, but no one can say with honesty they knew what came before the Big Bang, it is all guesses, regardless if they are educated or not. If I were to place the emphasis of my trust that the Bible is the Truth, then I might come closer to God, and build a strong faith out of that trust. I've been trying to come to terms with God, but it would appear that I can not do that. To come to terms with God would mean I bring him down at my level. Instead I must admit I just do not know and trust in him to guide me.

What do you think?

I think you're on the right track. Absolutely. Believing the universe was always here (eternally) requires blind trust. It even violates logic. You may want to study the concept of infinite regression. In a nut shell, if the universe is infinitely old, then an infinite number of moments must have been passed until now. But since the number infinity can never be reached, this moment should never have arrived. And if the universe if finite, there is no scientific explanation for the cause of the Big Bang. At this point we are left to believe the universe (time space and matter) popped into existence uncaused. That takes quite a bit of blind faith as well. So we're left with acausality or infinite regression. For me, theism, the idea that God created the universe, takes much less faith. And it also restores the validity of concepts like purpose and morality. Yep, you're on the right track!
 
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You are trying to lay down some key questions. I have been associated with Christianity for over 50 years. Only in the last 10 or so have I been so deliberately working on a personal world view. You asked your question on a Christian forum. But I have a problem with this forum. I am new to it. I don't yet know how to make it conversational and we need to converse. I notice CF staff does tend to keep in touch with what is happening and can guide in how to get it done. Anyway...
There are several "channels" that will contribute to your quest. One is already in progress. God works in you directly to create a thirst for something more. Your posting cries, "I'm thirsty." 2) He has delegated people to hear that and respond. 3) A significant part of that response will come from the Bible. The Bible is a library contributed to by some 40 writers over some 1500 years. It is the standard document of Christian faith and practice. 4) Biographies of people who followed God's guidance enhances our faith and can help with "how to" issues.
The key theme undergirding it all is this phrase, "God is love" 1 John 4:8, 16. From Colossians 1:16 & 17 we learn all things were created by Him. For love to be love it must have other minds, "people," to love - so He made them. Record of the creation of man is recorded in Genesis 1 & 2. To keep this in short form I would like to point you to Genesis 2:7. You will note that God put HIS hand in the dust and hand made man and shortly completed the creation with woman. He "breathed into his nostrils the breath of life." This is a very personal posture. It looks like a kiss to me. Isaiah 44:2, 24 records, “Thus saith the Lord that made thee, and formed thee from the womb, which will help thee.” “Thus saith the Lord, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb.” Though we participate in conception and birth God still lays claim to the wonderful work of forming you. He has direct and personal interest in you.
I gather from your posting you fear demeaning God in bringing Him down to you. I would suggest a different perspective. He gladly comes to you. He holds you in high esteem and wants to lift you up. Genesis 3 records the "fall" of man. Revelation 21 and 22 records the restoration of man - of you. It was Jesus that created man in general and you in particular. It is Jesus that went through horrendous labor to enable your restoration. He awaits your permission.
 
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I am starting to come to the conclusion that my understanding of the world around me is flawed. I lack knowledge of what the meaning of life is, or if there is even one.

It is because of trust that we come to our conclusions. As an non believer I could trust that a Universe might have always existed. I can read literature that would support such concepts and apply them as being more truthful than the Bible because of trust, but no one can say with honesty they knew what came before the Big Bang, it is all guesses, regardless if they are educated or not. If I were to place the emphasis of my trust that the Bible is the Truth, then I might come closer to God, and build a strong faith out of that trust. I've been trying to come to terms with God, but it would appear that I can not do that. To come to terms with God would mean I bring him down at my level. Instead I must admit I just do not know and trust in him to guide me.

What do you think?
I suggest study so that you can rightly divide His word of truth and understand God's will nd plan - not only for mankind, but for you personally.
God wants family and relationships with man - not religion. Religion is man-made, and we often put upon ourselves many ideas and concepts that God does not really display or relate to us in His word which is often taken out of context or not taken in balance with the whole of scripture which shows great harmony despite te objestions of its many detractors.
God has already brought Himself down to our level by manifesting Himself in the flesh of man as Jesus. He is not limited to the dimensions or frame of man, but trnscends. We live and God speaks to us through the sophisticated language of life which is truly marvelous and awesome - would you not agree? The God of the Bible is the God of love, and this is not a stand offish relationship at all, but one of marriage and commitment.
We, as sentient beings, have been given choices, and the fact that you seek is very good. I was and am a seeker, wanting to know all there is to know. The Bible tells me that I was not meant for death, but have inherited death and the nature of sin from my forefather, Adam. Through His Son, Jesus, mankind has been given a way back to spiritual life and connection to God. People ask why God would put man in a garden with a devil in the first place, but it actually makes good sense if that creation is going to be more than a robot programmed to certain responses. God did not want an incomplete creation in man and risked evil by giving choice to not only man but Lucifer who at one time was with God as a created being. To reveal Himself, God uses even the darkness of evil as a contrast to the light that He is, bringing about even that meant for evil to eventual good. So it makes sense that a masterpiece painting cannot be painted with white on white. Black, the absence of all light, makes the best outline for the present time, but will not always be needed once God's plan is complete and eternity replaces time.
I suggest reading the Bible diligently and other books that help. I also think Lee Strobel's books as good for the "seeker". He was an atheist journalist that set out to once and for all disprove all that he could concerning Jesus and God, but ended up converted after speaking with as many of the world's better minds that He could find to talk with him. "A Case For A Creator" is my favorite, where he addresses many of the top complaints and questions made by athesm.
I have found that we, as men, just do not really have the actual knowledge to narrow God out of our existence - especially since I see more and more that science is proving that all the more, God's powers are possible and even probable. We live, perceiving three dimensions, four if looking at time as one, yet science is telling us that it takes nine or ten dimensions for the math to work for a unifying theory of physics. So, the unseen makes up more of our reality that does the seen. The Bible told us this long ago - that all things are made of the unseen (Heb.11: 3) and men knew this even before the microscope.
There are so many things we would disallow God, yet we still show no or have little control over even the basic elemental powers of our universe. So why are we so arrogant in our imaginations of power when we are still just doing what Adam did in the garden of Eden when the unseen spiritual and physical dimensions of earth came together? We are still putting names on all the things God has already made and put in order before us.
I look forward to the day that I know as I am known by God and share with Him in the joy of creating a new heavens and earth. It certainly sounds even better and more exciting than Star Trek to me. ;) Star Trek gave hope for something better to a generation of seekers, but God gives so much more, being evident in history, science, and in life.
Keep seeking and asking God for help. Speak to Him. He talks to you with life and His Word. What does He say of life? Good?
We, as Christians, see the results of selfishness, greed, and evil brought about by the nature of man under sin and death and a need for a Savior, and rejoice knowing that Jesus came to purchase with His own pain and suffering, a way back to life with Him as His family.
 
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