Am I going to hell?

Actually, after finding Hell - Theopedia, an encyclopedia of Biblical Christianity that, I may take a more literal view.

John 4:8

Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.

It is a biblical concept, but claiming something does not make it true. I could call myself a pacifist and go around slapping all the people I don't like. I'm saying something, but it's not true.

Ask any Jewish person, there is no belief in eternal torment in Judaism. Hell always felt like a scare tactic to get people to be Christians.

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God's letting nearly 70% of his beloved children burn in Hell for not doing all that much wrong. Tell me how that is love.

Even is these people have had exposure to Christianity they may not completely understand it. We learned about Christianity in my history class. Some of my classmates had trouble answering whether Jesus or the ten commandments came first. They have learned about Christianity but are not exactly shining beacons of infinite knowledge. If they were to die right now would they all go to hell? I'm in high school.

Doesn't it feel difficult to know people on a personal level and care about them but think they are going to burn in Hell forever?

EmmaXO said:

John 4:8

Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love.

It is a biblical concept, but claiming something does not make it true. I could call myself a pacifist and go around slapping all the people I don't like. I'm saying something, but it's not true.

Ask any Jewish person, there is no belief in eternal torment in Judaism. Hell always felt like a scare tactic to get people to be Christians.

Major Religions Ranked by Size

God's letting nearly 70% of his beloved children burn in Hell for not doing all that much wrong. Tell me how that is love.

Even is these people have had exposure to Christianity they may not completely understand it. We learned about Christianity in my history class. Some of my classmates had trouble answering whether Jesus or the ten commandments came first. They have learned about Christianity but are not exactly shining beacons of infinite knowledge. If they were to die right now would they all go to hell? I'm in high school.

Doesn't it feel difficult to know people on a personal level and care about them but think they are going to burn in Hell forever?

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I don't know if hell is eternal. Yes, they will go to hell since they reject Yeshua, and God is just whether you believe it or understand it. We will just get confused and so if we try to comprehend him, his great wisdom and love etc. But all I know, from my times without him, in gaming and porn etc, is that it's horrible to be absent from his light shining on me, and his presence.

I weep for the many people that chose to reject him, live without him, he's the best father one can have. I weep seeing so much ungodliness, people without Yeshua in their hearts. I weep knowing that Satan blinds people

2 Corinthians 4:4
For the god of this world has blinded the unbelievers' minds [that they should not discern the truth], preventing them from seeing the illuminating light of the Gospel of the glory of Christ (the Messiah), Who is the Image and Likeness of God.
2 Corinthians 4:3-5 (in Context)



To be in hell, absent from his presence, and so, it's horrible, I can't imagine how horrible it is. You should read some testimonies of hell, and heaven. It opened my eyes, and my heart and made me commit myself more to him, and I don't regret it for a second, you can read such testimonies, there are videos too. Here: www.spiritlessons.com

Now, if you believe they are lying, or what, is up to you, but just saying, 8 year olds, and people around that age aren't really prone to lying. Also, if you see people's expressions, and descriptions, it's hard to believe it's lies. Just praying the Holy spirit will convict you, open your eyes and heart to Yeshua, and lead you into the truth. Like it did for me when I read the bible.

1 Corinthians 2:9
But, on the contrary, as the Scripture says, What eye has not seen and ear has not heard and has not entered into the heart of man, [all that] God has prepared (made and keeps ready) for those who love Him [ who hold Him in affectionate reverence, promptly obeying Him and gratefully recognizing the benefits He has bestowed].
1 Corinthians 2:8-10 (in Context)

But you have the possibility to seek God with all your heart, and find him. I PROMISE YOU, if you commit your life to Yeshua and surrender to him, you will find bigger joy, peace and love than you've ever had, or will ever have. He is the truth the way and the life!

John 14:6
Jesus said to him, I am the Way and the Truth and the Life; no one comes to the Father except by (through) Me.
John 14:5-7 (in Context)

Jeremiah 29:13
Then you will seek Me, inquire for, and require Me [as a vital necessity] and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart.
Jeremiah 29:12-14 (in Context)

Hebrews 11:6
But without faith it is impossible to please and be satisfactory to Him. For whoever would come near to God must [necessarily] believe that God exists and that He is the rewarder of those who earnestly and diligently seek Him [out].
Hebrews 11:5-7 (in Context)

Jonathan95 said:

I don't know if hell is eternal. Yes, they will go to hell since they reject Yeshua, and God is just whether you believe it or understand it. We will just get confused and so if we try to comprehend him, his great wisdom and love etc. But all I know, from my times without him, in gaming and porn etc., is that it's horrible to be absent from his light shining on me, and his presence.

I weep for the many people that chose to reject him, live without him, he's the best father one can have. I weep seeing so much ungodliness, people without Yeshua in their hearts. I weep knowing that Satan blinds people

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My classmates are around 14-15 and many of them come from non-Christian households and most likely do not completely understand the concept of Jesus dying for their sins. Some kids didn’t know Judaism was monotheistic. I told my Hindu friend I wanted to name my kid future kid Jonah. She laughed about what a strange name that was. They’re willfully rejecting Jesus as messiah (so am I) but whether they completely understand the topic is debatable.

If the age of reason is around puberty that means God is letting very young people burn in Hell for a concept they may not have been exposed too or understand completely. If God is love why will he let people perish for a concept they don’t completely understand? That’s not love.

Also, did you see in my other post about how that one girl felt the love of God for becoming Baha’i? I’m going to guess that you don’t think the Baha’i God is your God. Why did she feel a sense of love?

Jonathan95 said:

To be in hell, absent from his presence, and so, it's horrible, I can't imagine how horrible it is. You should read some testimonies of hell, and heaven. It opened my eyes, and my heart and made me commit myself more to him, and I don't regret it for a second, you can read such testimonies, there are videos too. Here: Divine Revelations: Face to Face encounters with Jesus Christ

Now, if you believe they are lying, or what, is up to you, but just saying, 8 year olds, and people around that age aren't really prone to lying. Also, if you see people's expressions, and descriptions, it's hard to believe it's lies. Just praying the Holy Spirit will convict you, open your eyes and heart to Yeshua, and lead you into the truth. Like it did for me when I read the bible.

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What do you have to say about people who have near death experiences but don’t see heaven or hell? People who are near death probably aren’t at their most mentally healthy state. They could easily hallucinate. Young children might be the most dishonest, easily swayed, and impressionable people. I was watching a show about a mother who drowned her child. The only witness was an eight year old child who kept giving different testimonies. A psychologist came on and talked about how easily young children can be convinced they saw something that didn’t happen. They showed videos of kids talking about events that never happened they had been told did happen. These kids talked with the utmost conviction they actually were right. They had convinced kids they went to the Eifel tower and released balloons and a rabbit got lose in their school.

Little kids aren’t good sources.

I’ve read parts of the bible. I have never felt particularly moved by it.

EmmaXO said:

I’ve read parts of the bible. I have never felt particularly moved by it.

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Which parts did you read?

ChristianT said:

Which parts did you read?

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Genesis, parts of the old testament, a bunch a random assorted verses posted on here and on other sites.

Edit: Now I'm concerned all the things I have had to say previously about hell are going to be disregarded because I have not read the entire bible. I'm in the process of it. I enjoy studying religions, so my knowledge of Christianity is not limited to the parts of the bible I have read. Have you read the entire Koran? If not how can you be sure the Koran isn't the truth?

It's weird. I believe in near death experiences. It's one of the only proofs that there is a God and an afterlife.

EmmaXO said:

Also, did you see in my other post about how that one girl felt the love of God for becoming Baha’i? I’m going to guess that you don’t think the Baha’i God is your God. Why did she feel a sense of love?



What do you have to say about people who have near death experiences but don’t see heaven or hell? People who are near death probably aren’t at their most mentally healthy state. They could easily hallucinate. Young children might be the most dishonest, easily swayed, and impressionable people. I was watching a show about a mother who drowned her child. The only witness was an eight year old child who kept giving different testimonies. A psychologist came on and talked about how easily young children can be convinced they saw something that didn’t happen. They showed videos of kids talking about events that never happened they had been told did happen. These kids talked with the utmost conviction they actually were right. They had convinced kids they went to the Eifel tower and released balloons and a rabbit got lose in their school.

Little kids aren’t good sources.

I’ve read parts of the bible. I have never felt particularly moved by it.

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Who is the God of Baha'i? If she felt love, then maybe it was demonic false love, it can begin like that, to be seducing. Baha'i is of Satan.

Stop saying he isn't love, when he is, whatever you say or think. You have the possibility to experience his love, as I told you in my previous post!

Well all articles on that site aren't NDE's. Most are dedicated to Face to Face encounters & visitations with Yeshua Ha'Maschiah. Then some are End-Times Revelations. Some are NDE/OBE: Near Death Experiences. Some are Testimonies, Teaching & Resources (with more on Page 2). That's all there is, on that site.

ShiningBecky said:

That is not true. Some christians say that God indeed does desire for people to burn in hell forever as a token of his "justice". I think they are called calvinists.

Actually, in christian thought, God must want people to go to hell or he would not have set things up so that one sin means being tormented forever in flames for a finite crime. God is all-powerful and made it this so, so it must be what he wants, or else he is not free or all-powerful, which is not possible for the christian god.

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You need to start your own threads. Forum rules don't allow you to take part in someone else's.

ShiningBecky said:

It's weird. I believe in near death experiences. It's one of the only proofs that there is a God and an afterlife.

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Nuclear bombs are prophesied in DETAIL, in the bible. I can give you a link to the first video, if you are interested.

No it's not, look at the world around you, look at the creations. Fishes shining in all the colors of the rainbow, shrimps moving forward like lightning. I can give you the video if you are interested. All the complex designs of the animals, and humans.

Or is the universe created by a big bang? How would all the planets have got in their rotation? Why do we have an ozone-layer to protect us from the sun? Everything is too organized, and much based for our living. Anyone who can't see this are blind. I feel sorry for all brainwashed and deceived by science, and big-bang etc.

EmmaXO said:

Genesis, parts of the old testament, a bunch a random assorted verses posted on here and on other sites.

Edit: Now I'm concerned all the things I have had to say previously about hell are going to be disregarded because I have not read the entire bible. I'm in the process of it. I enjoy studying religions, so my knowledge of Christianity is not limited to the parts of the bible I have read. Have you read the entire Koran? If not how can you be sure the Koran isn't the truth?

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Well pray to Yeshua, for yor eyes and your heart to be opened, and for his light to shine on you, and the holy spirit to guide you as you read the bible, so you can be led into the truth.

ebia said:

You need to start your own threads. Forum rules don't allow you to take part in someone else's.

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Yet forum rules let people judge and condemn their fellow man to eternal torture? Gotta love the irony! LOL

Jonathan95 said:

Who is the God of Baha'i? If she felt love, then maybe it was demonic false love, it can begin like that, to be seducing. Baha'i is of Satan.

Stop saying he isn't love, when he is, whatever you say or think. You have the possibility to experience his love, as I told you in my previous post!

Well all articles on that site aren't NDE's. Most are dedicated to Face to Face encounters & visitations with Yeshua Ha'Maschiah. Then some are End-Times Revelations. Some are NDE/OBE: Near Death Experiences. Some are Testimonies, Teaching & Resources (with more on Page 2). That's all there is, on that site.

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The Bahai's believe God sends prophets to reveal God's plan. The prophets include Mohammed, Jesus, Krishna, Buddha, and Zoroaster. They teach peace and tolerance. They follow the latest prophet, Baha'u'llah.

Bahá'Ã[bless and do not curse] Faith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm reading the first story, and something has struck me. Those girls had been fasting for fifteen days! They were also in a group all being influenced by each other. I am highly incredulous of this story. She is either lying or delusional. I haven't had time to read it all yet, but dreams and hallucinations are not evidence of God.

I am not saying God isn't love. I'm saying stating something doesn't make it true and hell is not a loving concept.

mulimulix said:

I've never heard this answer before. But, if you can simply change your mind after death, is there any point in believing in him now?

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Yes, your life will go much better and it's the right thing to do. What's wrong with loving God and your neighbor?

EmmaXO said:

The Bahai's believe God sends prophets to reveal God's plan. The prophets include Mohammed, Jesus, Krishna, Buddha, and Zoroaster. They teach peace and tolerance. They follow the latest prophet, Baha'u'llah.

Bahá'Ã[bless and do not curse] Faith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm reading the first story, and something has struck me. Those girls had been fasting for fifteen days! They were also in a group all being influenced by each other. I am highly incredulous of this story. She is either lying or delusional. I haven't had time to read it all yet, but dreams and hallucinations are not evidence of God.

I am not saying God isn't love. I'm saying stating something doesn't make it true and hell is not a loving concept.

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Yes it's a loving concept. It's just, and he gave us free will. It's not hallucinations, and dreams.

Also, Baha'i is of Satan. Krishna, Buddha, Zoroaster and Baha'u'llah, are false prophets.

Jonathan95 said:

Yes it's a loving concept. It's just, and he gave us free will. It's not hallucinations, and dreams.

Also, Baha'i is of Satan. Krishna, Buddha, Zoroaster and Baha'u'llah, are false prophets.

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Baha'i's would strongly disagree with that. I strongly disagree with that. Satan is deceiving people with love, tolerance, peace, and acceptance? Perhaps I should be worshiping Satan! Why is an all-powerful God letting Satan deceive people. Shouldn't he want everyone to come to Jesus?

When people experience other religions and Gods they are hallucinating or being deceived by the devil, but when they experience Jesus they are seeing the truth?

I've noticed you're also eluding answering many of my questions and previous comments.

In short mulimulix according to the christian faith yes.

The Bible teaches that no one can enter Heaven without faith in Christ. So then, there are only two possible scenarios:

1. We deserve God, and God is unjust.

2. We don't deserve God, and God is just.

If you can think of a third possibility, then let me know.

All it takes for me is one look at the world to be reminded how much we don't deserve God.

As for your fate, you're assuming that you will die the same as you are now. Only God knows your future, so I cannot comment on it.

Usually when the topic of Hell comes up, I find that people have false ideas about it. Hell is not some unfair place where all people suffer the same torment for eternity. God will judge the dead, and He will give a fair sentence based on our actions. It will be better for some than for others.

Even Heaven won't escape judgement, so our salvation is not an excuse for doing whatever we want with our lives.

mulimulix said:

Then, what would you say to someone like me? Surely, you can't just accept the fact that I'm doomed for eternity?

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If you don't believe in God, why do you care if you are doomed for eternity? I mean no God=no heaven or hell, so basically, do whatever you want to do and see how it pans out.

JaneFW said:

If you don't believe in God, why do you care if you are doomed for eternity? I mean no God=no heaven or hell, so basically, do whatever you want to do and see how it pans out.

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Technically, if he's right, he won't be able see how it pans out. He'll never have the chance to say "I told you so" because he wouldn't exist.