Am i daydreaming?

[pamper_lamb]

When i first came to know God about 3years ago after the baptism of the holy spirit, i don't know anything yet, wondered whether He spoke to me or daydreaming and He gave me a vision, He wan me to be a apostle and He showed me a vision of a pastor face, He said " i wan you to be like her" Indeed years have passed, tomorrow the pastor will commission to Apostle. Well after all these years He spoke to me " Do not be afraid, i will lead to a higher ground." issit a calling or am i daydreaming.

 

[pamper_lamb]

Prehap im just thinking too much. Well if God really wan me into full time, i believe He will show me step by step.
rite?

 

[IamGodslittlegirl]

Hi!

Hope you don't mind if I ask you a question

Have you ever like looked at the NT to see what the definition of an apostle is?

thanx!

shalom

hint: Acts 1:2,3 and verses 21 - 26 same chapter

 

[pamper_lamb]

Yeah i know, that's why i feel that im daydreaming. keep denying and denying. Being a pastor is hard for me, not to mention apostle.

 

[IamGodslittlegirl]

Yeah i know, that's why i feel that im daydreaming. keep denying and denying. Being a pastor is hard for me, not to mention apostle.

uhhhhh ........... the point of Acts 1 is that you can't be an Apostle - an Apostle was appointed by Jesus when He was on earth. The Apostles saw Him teach and do miracles - this is why Judas Iscariot's replacement had to have been there with Jesus.

The only exception was Paul, because Jesus chose him especially to be a witness to the gentiles, and taught him personally.

There were no other Apostles, are no other Apostles.

[ps: none of them were women ]

I am assuming that by "pastor" you mean a position in a church. Can you not be a witness, can you not be a minister of the Gospel by being you - where you are and where you are involved?

something else to consider. When God wants you to do something, there is a burning desire in your heart to do it. it's not something you would have to "work up". It's my opinion that we think full time ministry is doing something specific. I think full time ministry is what all true believers do 24/7 - be ready in and out of season to share God's love and truth with those He places in our lives. And that could be a homeless person or an ex-con or adopting a disabled child or a homeless child or helping widows, or volunteering in an old age home or visiting a person in prison, or dropping food or clothing off, or finding a family to support with time, love, concern and stuff - where ever God moves you to go.

Expand your horizons outside your religious box - you will be amazed at what God is doing

 

[pamper_lamb]

fortunately my church two apostles are female. well they have their own ministry, at times will preach sermons, most of the time, travel around the whole to build churches, training pastors and leaders.....

 

[IamGodslittlegirl]

fortunately my church two apostles are female. well they have their own ministry, at times will preach sermons, most of the time, travel around the whole to build churches, training pastors and leaders.....

Yes, I understand the apostalic movement today. My question would be - is it scriptural? The reason I question it, is that the NT writings are our standard. If it's not in there, then it's not Biblical. All of the references to apostles in the NT refer to the 12 disciples/apostles and to Paul who was personally called by Jesus Christ for a specific purpose. There are no other apostles listed in the NT. According to the guidelines set forth in Acts 1, it is impossible for anyone to be an apostle since the first century.

If you have other proof I would be happy to review it.

Thanx and shalom!

 

[M7nyc]

I know you were talking to pamper_lamb, but I'd like to join the conversation.

Yes, I understand the apostalic movement today. My question would be - is it scriptural? The reason I question it, is that the NT writings are our standard. If it's not in there, then it's not Biblical. All of the references to apostles in the NT refer to the 12 disciples/apostles and to Paul who was personally called by Jesus Christ for a specific purpose. There are no other apostles listed in the NT. According to the guidelines set forth in Acts 1, it is impossible for anyone to be an apostle since the first century.

You're right IamGodslittlegirl, the Bible is final the word on all spiritual experiences (2 Timothy 3:16), but I firmly believe Scripture supports apostolic ministry for today.

Certain Seminaries teach there were only twelve apostles, but Mathias replaced Judas Iscariot, and then God called Saul. That makes Saul –whose name changed to Paul- the thirteenth. If there were only twelve Paul could not claim apostleship. Also, when the ministry gifts lineup is mentioned (Ephesians 4:5-6) why doesn’t scripture qualify, or elaborate more on the apostle as a gift limited to twelve or thirteen? The context clearly implies no such limitation. Apostles and prophets are treated like evangelists, pastors, and teachers, without a restriction on their number. Paul mentioned false apostles would arise (2 Corinthians 11:13), and it is interesting to note how Paul defends the office (2 Corinthians 11:5, 11:13). It would have been much easier for Paul to say, "There are only twelve apostles and myself. Let me tell you their names." Instead, Paul goes through his long defense. Also, Paul says greet Adronicus and Junia who are of note among the apostles (Romans 16:7). How can these other two people be compared with the apostles unless they were associates?



Some make the claim that God's dealings with mankind change over time, and miracles aren’t necessary for today. Those who make that claim can’t back it up from the Bible. God does not change (Malachi 3:6, James 1:17). The opposite is true; people change. When prophecy ceased in Israel before Christ's incarnation, it was because of the nation's apathy and sin. Prophets are also miracle workers, and a lack of prophets and prophecy today can only happen for the same reason. What about the two prophets that confront the Antichrist (Revelation 11:3-12)? How do they fit into the picture if miracles aren't for today?



Now it should be clear there were more than 12 or 13 apostles and that miracles haven't ceased. Any other reasoning must be bad teaching, religious tradition, or prejudice.


I’ll give you this; true apostleship must not be too common otherwise more would be done in the church for the kingdom of God. I really believe apostles are starting churches all over the world today and right under our nose. Christian events simply don't seem to merit time on the BBC News. The news media knows that they give recognition to things they broadcast and it seems they'd rather talk about war.


Blessings (Isaiah 9:6-7)

 

[ozmum]

When i first came to know God about 3years ago after the baptism of the holy spirit, i don't know anything yet, wondered whether He spoke to me or daydreaming and He gave me a vision, He wan me to be a apostle and He showed me a vision of a pastor face, He said " i wan you to be like her" Indeed years have passed, tomorrow the pastor will commission to Apostle. Well after all these years He spoke to me " Do not be afraid, i will lead to a higher ground." issit a calling or am i daydreaming.

I think you are daydreaming ...
God won't tell you to be like a human.
He wants us to admire Christ.