Am I cursed by GOD or devil?

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Dear friends :


To tell you the truth, I am the one definitely be cursed. Either be cursed by God or devil!

I cant control my behaviors. I am extremely strange in the eyes of others. I have no courage to walk in the outside, and I am afraid of meeting others,even my parents. I have no friends, I usually dont speak.



I always feel quite uncomfortable in my physical body. But I think my mental problem my be more serious.


All these problems began when I was five years old, so I think I am cursed. My parents do not believe in God and thus they do a lot of evil things. God choose to punish them through me. Otherwise, I dont know other reasons why I born. How could I do now? I have already died in my heart.

 

[veryworried]

God is NOT punishing you, don't worry. I will pray for you.

 

[eatenbylocusts]

God can use you to point your parents toward Him. What would be the point of punishing your parents now when there will be everlasting punishment after death without Jesus?
Usually God disciplines those he loves to get their attention and repent.

As for your fears I would suggest starting with a Dr. to get any services you might need, continually praying to God for help and wisdom, and finding a good church that may even have a ministry just for you.

Medication may help, but if therapy could do the trick, that would be better. My kids both have ADD diagnosis, but definitely have some Asperger traits. My 20 yr old son was teased in school, but has some friends and is learning to be more social with others. I am very proud of him. My dd does not have any friends, but she is loved by family and my friends and I believe God has great things in store for her. She needs to be "taught" some social behaviors that come so easy to most of us, but she is still struggling with at 14.

I am reading Job right now and it is hard to read that God allowed that godly man to be tormented by Satan and even allow his kids to be killed. They were ungodly kids though and prone to drinking and partying. Even reading this hard stuff I know I would rather be in God's hands and believe that His plan is the best because we don't see the big picture.

I believe you are having a rough time and I am sorry for that, but I believe that God can use you and you can have a fulfilling life and glorify God despite your difficulties.

 

[Sabertooth]

So tell us about yourself. Have you accepted Jesus as your personal Savior? How old are you? Married? Kids? Knowing your gender would help us to pick the right pronoun when speaking of you in the third person...

 

[LovedSparrow]

If you are a born-again believer, accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior, scripture says that demons cannot live inside you. They can whisper thoughts to you that seem like your own thoughts, but they cannot reside in you. No need to worry.

God made you the way you are, sometimes I think it's a way of thinking. You can either tell yourself you're messed up and worth nothing, or you can tell yourself that God loves you deeply, knows all your flaws, accepts you, and is using this as a way to grow you and help others. God is sovereign over all. He allows things in our lives but has a purpose for them.

Try to stop telling yourself you are cursed and messed up. Start putting God's truth in your thoughts.

 

[Sistrin]

To tell you the truth, I am the one definitely be cursed. Either be cursed by God or devil!

The devil only wants you to believe you have been cursed by God. You haven't. I have a son with Autism, and I am blessed to have him. There is much you can contribute, don't give up.

 

[Glass*Soul]

Jesus was asked this same question once about a man who was born blind. This was his reply from John 9:

As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. His disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” “Neither this man nor his parents sinned,” said Jesus, “but this happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. As long as it is day, we must do the work of him who sent me. Night is coming, when no one can work. While I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”

There is no supernatural entity intent upon making your life a punishment for you or for anyone else. You have tremendous challenges. They do not preclude living a life that is meaningful and even joyful. It will be a life unique to you, meaningful and joyful in a way that is unique to you, growing out of your nature as it stands. Please do not punish yourself by holding yourself up anyone else's ill-fitting template for life. That simply would make no sense.

I say this as someone who needs to absorb that very message herself, not once for all time, but daily.

Is there someone in your life who is equipped to act as your advocate in learning and using your own skills? A teacher, social worker, therapist, a support group?

 

[GarfieldJL]

Dear friends :


To tell you the truth, I am the one definitely be cursed. Either be cursed by God or devil!

I cant control my behaviors. I am extremely strange in the eyes of others. I have no courage to walk in the outside, and I am afraid of meeting others,even my parents. I have no friends, I usually dont speak.



I always feel quite uncomfortable in my physical body. But I think my mental problem my be more serious.


All these problems began when I was five years old, so I think I am cursed. My parents do not believe in God and thus they do a lot of evil things. God choose to punish them through me. Otherwise, I dont know other reasons why I born. How could I do now? I have already died in my heart.

Quick question:
Did someone tell you that you were cursed or something?

Reason I'm asking is cause I have read about some pastors, priests, etc. telling kids on the spectrum that they were cursed.

In a situation like that I would say you have three options:
1. Drop off a bunch of reading material for the pastor/priest to read through, if you think it is simply a matter of him being uninformed on the subject.

2. Find a different church, you shouldn't have to sit through something like that.

3. Stay in that church... -- This is the option that in my opinion that you should not choose.

In any case, you are different from most people, you have strengths in areas that most people don't have, and there are areas that you are not as good at.

Now as to the behaviors: Are you feeling overwhelmed and that's when you start doing whatever behavior that you are worried about? If so, it could just a coping behavior because you're over-stimmed.

I would actually suggest you read some books written by people whom are also on the Spectrum, and/or a few books written by Tony Attwood. There may be some ideas on how to change your coping behavior and/or ways to deal with when you get over-stimmed.

 

[Home]

Quick question:
Did someone tell you that you were cursed or something?

Reason I'm asking is cause I have read about some pastors, priests, etc. telling kids on the spectrum that they were cursed.

In a situation like that I would say you have three options:
1. Drop off a bunch of reading material for the pastor/priest to read through, if you think it is simply a matter of him being uninformed on the subject.

2. Find a different church, you shouldn't have to sit through something like that.

3. Stay in that church... -- This is the option that in my opinion that you should not choose.

In any case, you are different from most people, you have strengths in areas that most people don't have, and there are areas that you are not as good at.

Now as to the behaviors: Are you feeling overwhelmed and that's when you start doing whatever behavior that you are worried about? If so, it could just a coping behavior because you're over-stimmed.

I would actually suggest you read some books written by people whom are also on the Spectrum, and/or a few books written by Tony Attwood. There may be some ideas on how to change your coping behavior and/or ways to deal with when you get over-stimmed.

thinks very much for your reply.
the primary reason why i feel i am cursed is that no one want to see me,they touch me as if they touch devil and most often,i feel very uncomfortable on my physical body. i cant control my behaviors so if the pain come to me, i will react just like a devil. fully lose of control,and i dont care anything around me.



i am afraid of communicating with others,i usually dont say a word except i need to go out to buy things to eat. even such activities,i usually hesitate for a few minutes before i decide to go out to buy the food.



Jesus is light,but i am afraid of seeing light.rather,i usually stay in a dark room. i think the devil is always inside me and i also think that is why it is so hard for me to control my behaviors.


there are no church around me (i am in China), and i am not married,i dont think i will get married in future.(i am such a strange people)



i think God have already abandoned me or he never planed to receive me. he know i cannot sustain the huge pain he added me,but he continually let me suffer the devastating situation.

 

[Upthewrongtree]

God will not abandon you if you are one of his. He will allow trial, but he will NOT abandon. He promises that.

If you do not know for sure if you belong to God -- you need to understand a few things.

God is perfect. There is One God in three persons. Like there is one egg, but one shell, one yolk and one white, but only one egg.

God the Father is perfect and wants to have a relationship with you. He loves you very much. He loves you so much that he allowed you to chose whatever you want. You can choose Him or something else. He made the whole universe and YOU through the person of Jesus Christ and his Holy Spirit.

But to live with him forever in heaven, which is a sinless place, you must too be sinless. If sin were allowed in heaven then it would be as miserable as earth. So, you must become blameless and perfect in God's eyes.

How do we do that? By being good? By having good parents? By being good at talking to people? No. We do that through the second person of God. Jesus Christ, his son. It sounds strange but in God's system, to cover sins there must be a blood sacrifice. It has been this way since the first sin in the Garden of Eden. When Adam and Eve sinned, God killed the first animal to make clothes to cover them because they noticed their nakedness and their sins. That is what we learn about in the Old Testament. God is perfect and requires obedience and sacrifice for sins.

But we can never EVER be perfect. We cannot even be good enough for God. So, he made the plan to have Himself in the person of Jesus Christ be the perfect sacrifice for all people who want to live with him forever. You must first understand that you have sins. Sins of your own. You must admit that ONE tiny sin can keep you from living with God forever. And that you will always sin as long as you live on earth. But if you want to be forgiven of your sins, God will forgive you if you believe that Jesus was God, and that he was perfect and he died for your sins. Jesus will be the replacement for your sins. You must cry out to God and admit your sins, and ask him to let Jesus be the payment for your sins. And if you believe this in your heart and are really truly sorry, then God will know and he will hear and he will forgive your sins. He will allow you to come into his kingdom then. You will still live on this broken world in sin, but you will have the hope of one day in heaven with him. And you will be free from the curse of your sins.

Then you will try to live your life in obedience to him because of the wonderful gift and pardon he has given you and you will be allowed to live in heaven with him one day.

The Holy Spirit (person number 3 of God) is special to someone who is in God's kingdom. The Holy Spirit is sent to believers to help them and comfort them and guide them. The Holy Spirit helps you know who God is and what God wants. It is not magical and you will not hear voices! :-D But when you belong to God HE WILL NOT ABANDON YOU. If you want to belong to God, cry out NOW -- don't wait.

You will still face trials in this life. And it may be very hard when you first belong to God. It takes a long time to clean a very dirty house (which is a sinner's life before they come to God). And the bad spirits will not like being kicked out. But you may still suffer from your mental health problems. Many good Christians do. You may not be possessed, but belonging to God is your only hope in this life and in the next life.

And, please, if you feel out of control, please get medical help if you can. If you cannot, find someone you trust to help you. But cry out to God. Ask for forgiveness in the name of Jesus Christ and then pray earnestly and if you can, read a Bible.

We all suffer from problems in this world. We cannot escape it because we life in a bad place. But God is faithful to help us in our times of need. I hope this helps you. I will pray for you.

 

[singpeace]

Dear Home,

If you have Asperger's, you certainly are not cursed. You are genuinely different from most people, and you are probably one of the most intelligent people in the room. I know from experience that people with Asperger's are usually close to if not genius level. They simply do not understand facial expressions, nor do they know how to socialize and communicate with others on an emotional level.

If your parents do not believe in God, that doesn't mean you can't. Believe in him because He is real. He can and will show you how to use your Asperger's for a blessing and not a curse.

Believe on Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior. Accept him into your whole heart and begin a new life in him.

God bless you sweet one.

 

[DarkSoul999]

Jesus was asked this same question once about a man who was born blind. This was his reply from John 9:


There is no supernatural entity intent upon making your life a punishment for you or for anyone else. You have tremendous challenges. They do not preclude living a life that is meaningful and even joyful. It will be a life unique to you, meaningful and joyful in a way that is unique to you, growing out of your nature as it stands. Please do not punish yourself by holding yourself up anyone else's ill-fitting template for life. That simply would make no sense.

I say this as someone who needs to absorb that very message herself, not once for all time, but daily.

Is there someone in your life who is equipped to act as your advocate in learning and using your own skills? A teacher, social worker, therapist, a support group?

That sounds like a useless non-answer. How is he supposed to just develop a meaningful life out of thin air? He clearly does not have an advocate. Even trained people cannot train autistic individuals to be fully social.

The skill needs to be developed from the inside...and only if he is clever enough to imitate normal human behavior. The deck is stacked again him to be quite frank. It is still possible to change things but it will require years of focus and practice.

 

[Glass*Soul]

That sounds like a useless non-answer. How is he supposed to just develop a meaningful life out of thin air? He clearly does not have an advocate. Even trained people cannot train autistic individuals to be fully social.

The skill needs to be developed from the inside...and only if he is clever enough to imitate normal human behavior. The deck is stacked again him to be quite frank. It is still possible to change things but it will require years of focus and practice.

You are mistaken in imagining that happiness lies in acting like non-autistics. Perhaps our appearing to be non-autistic makes others happy, but that is not a fulfilling goal. It can be good camouflage if you can do it and need camouflage. A tool for getting what you need if you can tolerate the large expenditures of energy.

However, human interactions should be a give-and-take. Those who love Home, their parents to begin with, have the opportunity of enjoining the great adventure of learning how to be with Home in a way that Home finds fulfilling. It may involve sign language or text messaging or some other means of communication assistance that Home can tolerate and enjoy. It may not end up looking anything like what you and I might imagine. It may be something delightfully peculiar only to Home.

I agree that it may take years for Home to work out what the best methods are for interacting with the world, but not years of someone simply training Home, but of Home and others working together and slowly learning from each other.

I would say that being bound and determined that one's autistic clients become "fully social", whatever that is supposed to mean, would be a dis-qualifier when choosing a therapist. The measure that matters is what will feel full to Home, however that ends up looking to anyone else.

 

[Glass*Soul]

thinks very much for your reply.
the primary reason why i feel i am cursed is that no one want to see me,they touch me as if they touch devil and most often,i feel very uncomfortable on my physical body. i cant control my behaviors so if the pain come to me, i will react just like a devil. fully lose of control,and i dont care anything around me.



i am afraid of communicating with others,i usually dont say a word except i need to go out to buy things to eat. even such activities,i usually hesitate for a few minutes before i decide to go out to buy the food.



Jesus is light,but i am afraid of seeing light.rather,i usually stay in a dark room. i think the devil is always inside me and i also think that is why it is so hard for me to control my behaviors.


there are no church around me (i am in China), and i am not married,i dont think i will get married in future.(i am such a strange people)



i think God have already abandoned me or he never planed to receive me. he know i cannot sustain the huge pain he added me,but he continually let me suffer the devastating situation.

I don't know if it helps to ponder this, but you are describing experiences that are common to autistic people. We can all be very sensitive to things like touch and sounds and bright lights. We can have melt-downs that are quite out of our control and upsetting. Many of us have trouble speaking and may rely on other methods of communication at least part of the time. There are many, many people going through what you are. You are not so strange after all.

 

[DarkSoul999]

You are mistaken in imagining that happiness lies in acting like non-autistics. Perhaps our appearing to be non-autistic makes others happy, but that is not a fulfilling goal. It can be good camouflage if you can do it and need camouflage. A tool for getting what you need if you can tolerate the large expenditures of energy.

However, human interactions should be a give-and-take. Those who love Home, their parents to begin with, have the opportunity of enjoining the great adventure of learning how to be with Home in a way that Home finds fulfilling. It may involve sign language or text messaging or some other means of communication assistance that Home can tolerate and enjoy. It may not end up looking anything like what you and I might imagine. It may be something delightfully peculiar only to Home.

I agree that it may take years for Home to work out what the best methods are for interacting with the world, but not years of someone simply training Home, but of Home and others working together and slowly learning from each other.

I would say that being bound and determined that one's autistic clients become "fully social", whatever that is supposed to mean, would be a dis-qualifier when choosing a therapist. The measure that matters is what will feel full to Home, however that ends up looking to anyone else.

So you are saying that autistic people should just keep lowering their standards to the point that they can be satisfied with living as an adult child? I'm really not following any of this.

I have a friend who has high function autism. He is 36 years old, unemployed, and living with his parents. He has given up on his future and expects to end up in a state run group home when his parents finally run out of money. His love of games, manga, and anime is not enough to fully distract him from this depressing reality. Socialization is absolutely essential if he is ever going to change this.

 

[Glass*Soul]

So you are saying that autistic people should just keep lowering their standards to the point that they can be satisfied with living as an adult child? I'm really not following any of this.

That is not at all what I said. Socialization between an autistic person and anyone else is going to be a give-and-take situation in which all parties learn best how to maneuver it, not a situation in which the autistic person puts on the best show possible of being non-autistic while the other person makes no special effort whatsoever. A person's parents might be good people with whom to begin working this out.

I have a friend who has high function autism. He is 36 years old, unemployed, and living with his parents. He has given up on his future and expects to end up in a state run group home when his parents finally run out of money. His love of games, manga, and anime is not enough to fully distract him from this depressing reality. Socialization is absolutely essential if he is ever going to change this.

Your friend might very well benefit from working with a good therapist, and a doctor for possible treatment of depression. Socialization can be a good and beneficial thing, but it might not end up looking exactly like you or I might imagine. If a therapist thinks that success is measured only in the autistic person being trained to look and act like there is nothing different about them, then there's a chance that therapist will end up doing more harm than good. The question is better termed "How does one move easily through this world?" The answer for each of us is unique.

Autism has lots of different aspects to it. To term someone as high functioning because they have good verbal skills or whatever may ignore the possibility that there may be other aspects of autism that they are really struggling with. The struggle in those areas may be mostly invisible to others. I don't know your friend at all, but there might be more than socialization struggles holding him back--things like sensory problems or executive dysfunction.

So, anyway, to answer your question, I'm not saying to lower the standards so much as to realize that the standards may be entirely different than one imagines going in. Not lower, but different--unique. Home, the OP, sounds like they need a lot of help but not to be run over rough shod in the rush to make them look and behave a certain way.

 

[BryanJohnMaloney]

So you are saying that autistic people should just keep lowering their standards to the point that they can be satisfied with living as an adult child? I'm really not following any of this.

Who are you to presume that my standards are "low" because they are not YOUR standards? Let's see the evidence to back up such a presumption.