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This kind of means you, then, have to quit fluttering around, sit down, do some serious considering, and decide on some things you either do, or do not believe. Right?Hope is what's stopping me. If I can be saved then I don't want even more on my record. But if I was literally created to go to hell then why not fully embrace it? I mean it's not like someone can say to me that my character is at stake, sense I never really had any to begin with. All I would be doing was fulfilling what I was created to do, am I not wrong?
This kind of means you, then, have to quit fluttering around, sit down, do some serious considering, and decide on some things you either do, or do not believe. Right?
Your last few lines here make me smile.I mean, if I was going to Hell because of my sin and God chose to not help me, that's my fault. I have no one to blame but myself and I have reaped what I sowed. If however I was literally created for that purpose without a free will, it would just give me a good reason to hate God and pass the blame from myself to him. Which would admittedly make the situation better having someone else to be mad at other than myself.
Currently though I find myself hating me. I should be able to have all of these emotions and Godly Sorrow, but I literally can't. I don't know how else to describe it other than my mind fighting against my own will, which I'm sure sounds strange. I feel like I'm a slave to my own will.
How much do you want to be free??
Your last few lines here make me smile.
Got a Bible? Check out how Paul said just about the same thing about himself in Romans 7: verses 24-25 (or somewhere right in that area.)
Every time you come up with one of these things you want to add to the "worry pot", and stir around some.... decide if it is something that is true or false in your estimation, and get it down solid in your thinking how you feel about it. Then store it away as something you have settled and no longer have to putz with.I apologize for dragging this off into a free will vs fate type thing. Anyways, what do you mean I have to decide what I believe? I'm just saying the logical conclusion of what someone is telling me. Frankly I wouldn't even mind it that much if it didn't look like I got the short end of the stick on the whole predestination deal.
Sounds pretty much like you actually DON'T really know the verses like you think you do.I know the verse. The difference is Paul didn't really want to, he just gave into temptation. My will on the other hand does want to, yet at the same time my mind also doesn't want to. Or a guess a better way of describing it is it's my will for my will not to want it, if that makes sense.
Even still I do it for selfish motives. Paul was sad at hurting Jesus. I'm just worried about saving my own skin. Even in sinning Paul is still more Godly than me, as at least his motives aren't as corrupt.
Sounds pretty much like you actually DON'T really know the verses like you think you do.
Every time you come up with one of these things you want to add to the "worry pot", and stir around some.... decide if it is something that is true or false in your estimation, and get it down solid in your thinking how you feel about it. Then store it away as something you have settled and no longer have to putz with.
Try looking up a cognitive thinking system called REBT, and take a few minutes to learn how to use it.
When you've had enough of doing what you've always done, to get what you've always got...and your truely serious...i ll give you your answer. But dont come until your totally willing to listen without trying to teach...
If my fate's already decided why should I do anything? Nothing I do really matters anyway. Frankly if God created me like this just to send me to hell then I believe that really takes a strike at the core character of God, and I might as well do whatever I please since I'm going to hell anyways.
I apologize for dragging this off into a free will vs fate type thing. Anyways, what do you mean I have to decide what I believe? I'm just saying the logical conclusion of what someone is telling me. Frankly I wouldn't even mind it that much if it didn't look like I got the short end of the stick on the whole predestination deal.
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