All Lives Matter

[Torah Keeper]

Do you find this offensive? Racist? Or ok? Is this a better slogan than:

Black Lives Matter
White Lives Matter
Asian Lives Matter
Jewish Lives Matter
Etc....

 

[Fantine]

When people begin behaving as if all lives matter then there won't be any reason to remind them that there are groups who experience discrimination.

So it's up to all of us to make those phrases obsolete.

Someone who says all lives matter and wants a travel ban against refugees, for example, doesn't really believe all lives matter.

 

[PloverWing]

Because the phrase "All Lives Matter" is used as a negative response to the phrase "Black Lives Matter", I hear "All Lives Matter" as a way of saying "Black Lives Don't Matter Very Much." When used with this meaning, it is offensive.

 

[Sketcher]

I don't find it offensive at all. Some people think that _____ lives don't matter as much at times, so I really don't have a problem with saying _____ lives matter. After all, because all lives matter, _____ lives also matter.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Do you find this offensive? Racist? Or ok? Is this a better slogan than:

Black Lives Matter
White Lives Matter
Asian Lives Matter
Jewish Lives Matter
Etc....

All lives matter is an egotistical reply to

Black lives matter.

Black lives matter is said because how black lives are treated like they don't matter since they are killed by police with intense discrimination.

Replying to that with, WELL, I MATTER TOO! is not only missing the point, but sickening really.

 

[Servus]

How about, black lives matter as much as white lives and vice versa?

 

[Gregory Thompson]

How about, black lives matter as much as white lives and vice versa?

The point is that the reality of how lives are treated is different.

I recall that approach being common in the 1990s but it apparently wasn't of any help.

 

[dqhall]

Do you find this offensive? Racist? Or ok? Is this a better slogan than:

Black Lives Matter
White Lives Matter
Asian Lives Matter
Jewish Lives Matter
Etc....

Forgot there are more Hispanics in America than Blacks, Asians or Jews. There are more Hispanics than any other ethnic group in California. They are not all voting age.

Hispanics live longer than White Non Hispanic.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Because the phrase "All Lives Matter" is used as a negative response to the phrase "Black Lives Matter", I hear "All Lives Matter" as a way of saying "Black Lives Don't Matter Very Much." When used with this meaning, it is offensive.

Actually All Lives Matter was in response to the slogan Black Lives Matter as being
something exceptional.

It turned political as BLM became political and now both are used to rub salt into the wounds
of those on the left and on the right.

That being said, the truth is, all lives do matter. Tell me how this is false ?

 

[Torah Keeper]

Well, black lives do matter. But so do white lives. Or any color. It just seems to me that singling out one color is kind of ignoring the bigger problem. Jews were not treated very nice(holocaust), and same with Native Americans. But also certain white peoples were treated very badly and even enslaved(Irish).

So it depends how you look at it. If I see "All Lives Matter", I don't assume it's a secret code that really means "Black Lives Don't Matter". Some people see racism where there is none. And ignore racism that affects others, including whites.

 

[miamited]

Do you find this offensive? Racist? Or ok? Is this a better slogan than:

Black Lives Matter
White Lives Matter
Asian Lives Matter
Jewish Lives Matter
Etc....

Hi TK,

I think that you're likely missing the point behind the black lives matter movement. It isn't that those people don't understand that all lives matter. It's that they've witnessed actions that seem to show that there are a lot of people who don't seem to think, or allow, that black lives matter. You may not remember, but there was a time in our country when black people were believed to have tails. There was a time in our nation that black people weren't counted as people. There was a time in our nation that black people couldn't own land or vote or were allowed the basic decency of a safe and peaceful home life. For those who do remember those days, then the point seems to still need to be made to many who participated in the degradation of black Americans...that Black Lives Matter!

Now, I'm certainly not condemning all police officers, but there does seem to be an undercurrent among many white police officers, because a lot of the trouble calls they receive or for black neighborhoods, that those black people are somehow less human than they are. You may also remember recently a young black man jogging through a neighborhood who was accosted and then shot dead by some white men who took it upon themselves to stop and grill the man, who naturally took offense at such an event, and then wound up shot dead on the pavement. Trayvon Martin, just a young man out for a stroll in the cool of the evening winds up shot dead by a white man for no apparent good reason.

So yes, when people see such events, then the natural response is to point out to people that, "Hey!!! Black Lives Matter!!"

Oh, and to answer your question: I find it more than ok for black people, Asian people and any other group of people who become the butt of our hate and distrust to point out to the rest of us that their particular 'nationality/color of skin' life matters.

God bless,
Ted

 

[iarwain]

Black lives matter is said because how black lives are treated like they don't matter since they are killed by police with intense discrimination.

Except that is not actually true.

 

[JustSomeBloke]

BLM is a tool for causing great divisions in society. It is a massive wedge, if you will. The objective is to cause such a huge amount of irreparable damage, that the nation is totally destroyed, and can then be reformed as a far-Left socialist dystopia.

Furthermore, our God stands for order and creation. Whereas satan stands for chaos and destruction. From that point of view, the fact that the 'mostly peaceful' BLM riots caused an estimated $2 Billion in damage, ought to be a strong indicator as to whether BLM is a movement that Christians should support.

You may have noticed that I didn't even address all-lives-matter versus black-lives-matter. I didn't address it because I think it's utterly irrelevant, seeing as the entire reason for BLM is to act as a front for socialists and marxists to cause deep divisions that are intended to totally destroy America.

It's also worth remembering that it has often been said that America is too strong to be defeated by an external power, and can only be defeated from within. And I believe that is what we are seeing right now. Having spent decades infiltrating all of the important influential American institutions, the far-Left are now taking over.

 

[SilverBear]

"Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others." George Orwel Animal Farm

 

[SilverBear]

Except that is not actually true.

actually it is true.

Some will try to put out the statistic that more whites are shot by police every year than blacks as somehow proof but that statistic ignores the fact that almost all of the white people shot by police were engaged in a felony crime at the time while the majority of the black people shot by police were killed during a traffic stop

 

[Arcangl86]

actually it is true.

Some will try to put out the statistic that more whites are shot by police every year than blacks as somehow proof but that statistic ignores the fact that almost all of the white people shot by police were engaged in a felony crime at the time while the majority of the black people shot by police were killed during a traffic stop

And ignores the fact that White folk vastly outnumber Black folk, so even if the absolute number is lower, the relative numbers are much higher.

 

[Yarddog]

Do you find this offensive? Racist? Or ok? Is this a better slogan than:

Black Lives Matter
White Lives Matter
Asian Lives Matter
Jewish Lives Matter
Etc....

All lives matter and can be offensive if one brings the sign to an event designed to draw attention to abuses against a particular group.

 

[iarwain]

And ignores the fact that White folk vastly outnumber Black folk, so even if the absolute number is lower, the relative numbers are much higher.

White folk outnumber Black folk, but Blacks commit crimes at a much higher rate than their proportion of the population. So it's no surprise that there run into unfortunate situations with the police at a higher proportion also. Especially in high crime areas, where they have a large representation. Black families have fewer fathers in the home, who might also teach their sons the proper way to respond to a police interaction. In almost all of these fatal shootings, there is some resisting arrest involved.

Police shoots white person is not news. Police shoots black person is big news that helps feed a narrative and drives up ratings. So there's no focus on police shooting white people. Even in the George Floyd case, which was ruled murder, I see no sign or evidence whatsoever of race being a motive.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Except that is not actually true.

It's because of this common perception that the people affected riot.

Thanks for coming out.

 

[iarwain]

It's because of this common perception that the people affected riot.

As I said above, black people are shot at disproportionate numbers because they commit crimes disproportionately, and live in areas of disproportionate crime. That's not to say there isn't a problem, but blaming it on the police is missing the actual causes by a wide mark.

And people like LeBron James, who says he is being hunted by police every time he walks out of his house (despite the fact that he is often escorted by police), are simply race baiting and stirring up division and racial tensions.