"AIDS Myth Exposed" Exposed as false

[SallyNow]

Recently, a newspaper ran a story that stated that the HIV/AIDS epidemic was no longer a threat, that it was limited to homosexual behaviour, etc. The piece was little more than a propaganda piece.

Here is the true WHO stance on HIV/AIDS:

WHO Press Release

We wish to clarify misinterpretations concerning WHO and UNAIDS' positions on the status of the AIDS epidemic in recent media articles. The story in the Independent on Sunday titled: “Threat of world AIDS pandemic among heterosexuals is over, report admits” contained a few seriously misleading statements that have led to inferences and conclusions that bear no relation to the highly complex realities of the HIV epidemic.

Those who are poverty-stricken, who are without proper access to medical care, education, and basic necessities such as clean water, are those who are most at risk.

How are people able to believe the dribble that HIV/AIDS can be blamed on homosexuals or that HIV/AIDS transmission is caused by homosexuality? How can anyone actual lobby governments to base their HIV/AIDS prevention strategies on such dribble?

What do you think of the fact that HIV/AIDS is an epidemic and that one of the major contributing factors is living in poverty?

 

[MachZer0]

Recently, a newspaper ran a story that stated that the HIV/AIDS epidemic was no longer a threat, that it was limited to homosexual behaviour, etc. The piece was little more than a propaganda piece.

Here is the true WHO stance on HIV/AIDS:

WHO Press Release



Those who are poverty-stricken, who are without proper access to medical care, education, and basic necessities such as clean water, are those who are most at risk.

How are people able to believe the dribble that HIV/AIDS can be blamed on homosexuals or that HIV/AIDS transmission is caused by homosexuality? How can anyone actual lobby governments to base their HIV/AIDS prevention strategies on such dribble?

What do you think of the fact that HIV/AIDS is an epidemic and that one of the major contributing factors is living in poverty?

It's interesting that the article puts homosexuals (males) in a category with prostitutes and drug addicts

 

[marshlewis]

It's interesting that the article puts homosexuals (males) in a category with prostitutes and drug addicts

Doesnt this thread totaly refute your position in the other thread?. come on mach you cant let this stand. Make something up, quick!.

 

[MachZer0]

Doesnt this thread totaly refute your position in the other thread?. come on mach you cant let this stand. Make something up, quick!.

Actually, it confirms it

 

[SallyNow]

It's interesting that the article puts homosexuals (males) in a category with prostitutes and drug addicts

Actually, it confirms it

The official WHO stance totally debunks the stance that homosexuals are to blame for HIV/AIDS, which totally debunks the article by the Independant. As the other thread's stance was that homosexuals are to blame for HIV/AIDS, the WHO article does not confirm the stance of the other thread at all. It totally debunks the other thread's stance.

The article also states that it is men who have sex with women who are driving the epidemic:

Heterosexual transmission continues to drive the epidemic among sex workers, their clients, and their clients' partners.

If one really needs to assign the "blame" to any sexual orientation, it is men who have sex with women.

Preventitive measures still revolve around reducing poverty and increasing access to education and medical care. The reducation of sexism and the increase in universal women's rights would also help reduceThey do not revolve around the prevention of men having sex with men.

Here are some facts regarding HIV/AIDS with the propaganda stripped away
Flat out, here's who is most likely to end up with HIV/AIDS, biologically and politically:
http://www.who.int/gender/hiv_aids/en/
Comprehensive information on HIV/AIDS:
http://www.who.int/hiv/en/

And the flat-out statistics on HIV/AIDS:
http://www.avert.org/worldstats.htm

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

What drives the dribble? The same things that drive all ill agendas: ignorance, bigotry, and apathy. I remember when AIDS first hit the media and how we were systematically trained to believe it was a "gay" disease so heteros contracted it because they thought they were safe. Even with the mountains of evidence proving it is not a gay disease there are still ignorant jerks claiming aids is God's punishment for gays.

From what I've read, AIDS is a man-made disease from vaccination experiments so gays had nothing to do with it at all.

It's just so sad Christians spread lies and do it without shame. Then they wonder why more people don't seek Christ or respect Christianity.

 

[blueapplepaste]

It's interesting that the article puts homosexuals (males) in a category with prostitutes and drug addicts

Yeah it is interesting...

What I don't find interesting is your desperate attempt to trivialize such a devastating disease by using it to push your radical political and social agenda. AIDS is a person problem. Its not a gay problem, its not a straight problem, it affects everyone and knows no bounds.

 

[CCGirl]

Thanks for the link clearing this up!

 

[MachZer0]

Yeah it is interesting...

What I don't find interesting is your desperate attempt to trivialize such a devastating disease by using it to push your radical political and social agenda. AIDS is a person problem. Its not a gay problem, its not a straight problem, it affects everyone and knows no bounds.

According to WHO, it does indeed seem to be a homosexual problem. Note the reference to men on men sex

 

[SallyNow]

According to WHO, it does indeed seem to be a homosexual problem. Note the reference to men on men sex

I'm afraid I'm useless at debating with those who choose to ignore all evidence and grab hold on a single idea like Mr. Burns stealing candy from Maggie Simpson.

The facts are that, worldwide, those highest at risk are women who live in poverty.

Let me repeat that.

Women who live in poverty.

Let me post a few of the most telling quotes from WHO, who deal with the cold, hard reality:

Gender norms influence women and girls' vulnerability to HIV. In many places, these norms allow men to have more sexual partners than women, and encourage older men to have sexual relations with much younger women. In some settings, this has contributed to higher infection rates among young women (15-24 years) compared to young men. Women may want their partners to use condoms (or to abstain from sex altogether), but often lack the power to make them do so.

Millions of women do not enjoy access to educational opportunities and lack economic security and equal protection under law, which further contributes to their vulnerability to HIV. HIV/AIDS programmes that include comprehensive AIDS education and clear prevention messages, promote condoms, provide needle exchange for injecting drug users and prompt treatment for sexually transmitted infections can help women and girls protect themselves from HIV. However, many of these programmes and services are not easily accessible, in part because they do not invest in the specific needs of women and girls, and fail to address the underlying gender inequalities that pose a barrier to their access.

both from here: http://www.who.int/gender/hiv_aids/en/

Let me also post some statistics:
-There are over 2 million children with HIV/AIDS worldwide
-There are about 2 million people with HIV/AIDS in North America and Western Europe.
-There are over 20 million people living with HIV/AIDS in Africa, more than 60% of which are women.
-Access to education and healthcare has reduced the level of HIV/AIDS in poverty-stricken countries.

Here's the link to this information: http://www.unaids.org/en/KnowledgeCentre/HIVData/EpiUpdate/EpiUpdArchive/2007/

 

[marshlewis]

Actually, it confirms it

Short and sweet!

 

[TheNewWorldMan]

It's interesting that the article puts homosexuals (males) in a category with prostitutes and drug addicts

What about African heterosexuals? Or do Africans not count because they're not wealthy and white? Come on now, the gig is up. The idea that AIDS is purely or even mostly a homosexual disease has been debunked. You lost this debate back in the last thread.

 

[MachZer0]

What about African heterosexuals? Or do Africans not count because they're not wealthy and white? Come on now, the gig is up. The idea that AIDS is purely or even mostly a homosexual disease has been debunked. You lost this debate back in the last thread.

The original report from WHO is a reference to AIDS outside of Africa, counting Africa as an anomaly

 

[AirPo]

The original report from WHO is a reference to AIDS outside of Africa, counting Africa as an anomaly

It seems someone has been

led to inferences and conclusions that bear no relation to the highly complex realities of the HIV epidemic.

by reading an article that

contained a few seriously misleading statements

and continues to post

misinterpretations concerning WHO and UNAIDS' positions on the status of the AIDS epidemic

 

[Donkeytron]

It seems someone has been



by reading an article that and continues to post

Haha, you win the thread.

 

[Panzerkamfwagen]

Those who are poverty-stricken, who are without proper access to medical care, education, and basic necessities such as clean water, are those who are most at risk.

Ok then.

Explain South America. They're mostly poverty stricken without accessto clean water, education and basic necessities, but yet they don't have an AIDS epidemic. I think that goes for Asia too.

 

[MachZer0]

It seems someone has been



by reading an article that and continues to post

I see you fell for the WHO disclaimer that attempted to bring them back into the PC line. By the way, the disclaimer really said nothing that wasn't in the original article I posted in my thread

 

[AirPo]

I see you fell for the WHO disclaimer that attempted to bring them back into the PC line. By the way, the disclaimer really said nothing that wasn't in the original article I posted in my thread

The original article you posted in your thread had misinterpretations concerning WHO and UNAIDS' positions on the status of the AIDS epidemic, I agree.

The original article you posted in your thread had a few seriously misleading statements, I agree.

Glad you finally saw that

 

[MachZer0]

The original article you posted in your thread had misinterpretations concerning WHO and UNAIDS' positions on the status of the AIDS epidemic, I agree.

The original article you posted in your thread had a few seriously misleading statements, I agree.

Actually that's not true. The two articles basically say the same thing although the second tries to reword things to sound more PC