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Affirmation of Celibacy

caitlincares

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Ceilbacy in its true sense NOT just chastity until wedding night.

Let's have this thread be positive for those who have truly accepted the gift of celibacy.

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Yes, this is to balance out the other thread.

No one is saying marriage is bad but saying celibacy is NOT BAD.
 

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From article A Brief Word on Celibacy

...our understanding of celibacy as a gift helps us to appreciate the fact that this life is not a negative, but a positive calling. All too often is celibacy described in terms of negation: the celibate is one who 'lacks' a spouse, who 'goes without' marriage, who 'suffers the absence' of a partner. But gifts are not matters of negation, they are rooted in the active receipt of otherwise un-possessed blessings. Celibacy is only a negative state when viewed from one, specific angle. How often does modern man stop to think of celibacy, even attempt to think of celibacy, as the embracing of a different kind of positive? Perhaps never, certainly not often; and yet this is the very message of celibacy as gift. The celibate man may live without a wife, but he possesses the great gift of being wed solely to Christ, of having none for the object of his intimate love than his own Creator. She who lives in celibate devotion to God vests herself in the same manner of life embraced by the Son who walked on this earth with neither spouse nor mate, yet wed Himself to all the world as the perfect Bridegroom for a waiting bride. Are not such things positive, not states of deprivation but of rich fulfilment? The celibate does not see his life predominantly as one of 'going without', but one of going with Christ in a different way. Yes, there are sacrifices made, oftentimes severe in form and nature, but this is no less true in a holy marriage. In the requirement of great sacrifice, the callings are the same. Their distinction lies in the manner, not the quantity, of the offering. Only when we are truly, deeply biased, do we fail to see that both gifts require tremendous personal sacrifice, yet from and through this sacrifice grant many rich blessings.

The celibate's call is to walk toward Christ in a different manner than his married brother. Due to the unsearchable wisdom and love of God, he is called to a type of journey into the Kingdom that is more socially solitary -- but he is never alone. The celibate, too, believes that 'it is not good for man to be alone'; but let us not be so naive and closed-minded as to think that marriage is the only way to be 'together'. The celibate joins himself to the world in a relationship of no single intimate union with another, that through his one union with Christ, and through Him the Spirit and the Father, he may be lover and companion to all. It is a very different call than to the blessed state of marriage; but a call is always, by its nature, social.

Celibacy is a positive calling, and we are reminded of this when we appreciate its nature as divine gift. We find here, too, reassurance of the fullness of life to be had in such a calling. Society may be eager to decry the celibate way as one in which the individual 'misses out' on the fullness of life attainable in marriage, but in so doing, our modern world only shows more clearly its failure to understand the nature of the gifts of God as effective personal realities. The richness, the wholeness and the completeness of life do not come from the adherence to any social or relational model: they come from personal union with God. Such union is always and only available to man through the gifts given him by our precious and loving Lord; and so individual fullness comes from realising, embracing and fostering within us the gifts we, and not any other, have received. Many receive the gift of the married vocation, and to these the richness of union with God comes, in part, through that gift's actualisation in a holy and sanctified marriage. Not to embrace the gift is to wage battle with God, who knows better than man what life is most suited to him. And this same concept is equally true of him who has received the gift of celibacy: only in the gift's embrace will such a person ever truly know the richness and fullness of life as God has set it before him. No other way shall ever satisfy the longing in his heart, even if that other way is that which brings fulfilment and union to a hundred million others. It is not his way. To live a celibate life is, for the one who has received this gift, the context of his journey into union with God.
 
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JPPT1974 said:
Celibracy is also to save people from sexually transmitted diseases as well as an accidential pregnancy.

I believe that in this thread the word celibacy is not used to mean waiting to have sex until marriage but is used to mean choosing not to have sex for the rest of one's life; committing oneself to remaining single and no longer looking at marriage as an option; a committment to singleness as strong as a marriage covenant. So people who are planning on getting married one day or who are open to the possibility of getting married if God leads them to marriage in the future would not be committed to celibacy in the sense that it is used in this thread.
 
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fishstix said:
I believe that in this thread the word celibacy is not used to mean waiting to have sex until marriage but is used to mean choosing not to have sex for the rest of one's life; committing oneself to remaining single and no longer looking at marriage as an option; a committment to singleness as strong as a marriage covenant. So people who are planning on getting married one day or who are open to the possibility of getting married if God leads them to marriage in the future would not be committed to celibacy in the sense that it is used in this thread.

I am still single and plan on not using sex at all. If that God wants me to have a husband. But if he wants me to stay single then that is fine with me. To be honest, I don't have the urgency to get married at all like most other thirty somethings. I am really content and happy.
 
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JPPT1974 said:
I am still single and plan on not using sex at all. If that God wants me to have a husband. But if he wants me to stay single then that is fine with me. To be honest, I don't have the urgency to get married at all like most other thirty somethings. I am really content and happy.
You are practicing abstinance to sex. :clap:

True celibacy is a commitment to NEVER have sex EVER.
Not with the condition of "until (or if) I get married".
 
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Forgive me if I end up sounding like an ignorant buffoon, but if celibacy is a gift, why do so many of those who seem to want it fail to keep it? Even worse, why do some of those who try to live celibate lives have their sexuality mutated in such a way that they end up abusing children akin to the rash of sexual abuse scandals in the Catholic church?
 
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TriptychR said:
Forgive me if I end up sounding like an ignorant buffoon, but if celibacy is a gift, why do so many of those who seem to want it fail to keep it? Even worse, why do some of those who try to live celibate lives have their sexuality mutated in such a way that they end up abusing children akin to the rash of sexual abuse scandals in the Catholic church?
Let's not get into that here.

Simply I would say we all have difficulty knowing what God wants of us.
Whether it is to a ministral vocation or any other vocation.

So I would say some probably decide on a path they were not truly meant to take.
And were not given the gift to do.

We are not really to judge others.

I hope I said that diplomatically.
 
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caitlincares said:
I hope I said that diplomatically.
very diplomatic - you are overflowing with the fruit of gentleness, sister!! :thumbsup:

is there anyone on here that has actually been called to celibacy? how do you know if God is calling you to be celibate? what are the traits of someone who has the gift of celibacy?
 
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TriptychR said:
Forgive me if I end up sounding like an ignorant buffoon, but if celibacy is a gift, why do so many of those who seem to want it fail to keep it?
Likely for the same kinds of reasons that some people who get married, fully intending it to be a lifetime committment, end up getting divorced. Gifts can be refused, whether the gift is that of a spouse or of celibacy or of anything else. Also, it is possible for people to make incorrect choices - eg. someone who would have been ideally suited for celibacy may choose to get married and find out later that it was a bad choice; someone who would have been ideally suited for marriage may choose a life of celibacy and find out later that it was a bad choice. And when we make bad choices, sometimes we make more bad choices in trying to deal with the original bad choice.

Lastly, as far as sexual perversions go, both celibate and non-celibate people can fall into sexual sin. The media tends to focus on certain cases of sexual perversion largely because of the shock factor while completely ignoring other cases that they find less interesting. This gives the public a skewed perception of what sort of people are prone to sexual sin and creates false stereotypes of certain professions.

The choice between life-long celibacy or marriage is a major decision and something that each of us needs to seek God's help in determining. Whichever one God has created an individual for will be the best and most fulfilling lifestyle for that individual. It is important that we try to find out what God would have us do - as our own way is quite often not the best way. And even after we have made the choice to commit to marriage or to commit to celibacy, we still need God's help every moment to stay faithful to that commitment and not to fall into sin.
 
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I didn't mean to imply any stereotypes upon Catholic priests as a whole; that's where the central focus has seemed to be as they are one of the few denominations whose leaders are celibate. But caitlin did not create this thread to house any debates, so I'm done. :)
 
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