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Hello,

This is a little long, but I'd like some feedback from the community. (You guys are all awesome, btw. :cool:)

About a year ago, I told some "white lies" on an application for my current employment. I did this against conscience at the urging of my parents (both Christians, who led me to faith as a child.) Their reasoning was that I was being too picky and detailed about filling out the form. I decided to trust my dad's experience (who was in this same industry), and forgot about the issue for ~10 months.

When talking with a friend a few months ago, the application came to mind (along with an avalanche of guilt). I'm concerned because if this really was the lie I feel it is, I'm afraid all I've worked for has been theft. The only way to set things right seems to be confession to my employer, and possibly facing legal prosecution.

My family are against me confessing, afraid it would torpedo my career. They believe that I am striving after legalism... a works-based salvation. Obviously, this is something I wish to avoid. Jesus spoke harshly of Pharisees. My family thinks that due to my job (very high stress), I am having a stress response by feeling false guilt. Also, they have said that Christ gives us freedom from obeying the strict letter of the law, and that he does not communicate conviction in such a destructive manner.

I'd like to believe them... I've always been prone to be a "by the book" kind of guy.
But I can't shake the feeling.

God, despite my pleading, has been silent. When I read the Word, all I see is the accusation that I'm disobeying Christ's command to lose my life (in my case, my career and family) for his sake. I've had short panic attacks and insomnia over it, and resist taking communion, as I don't want to take the bread and the cup in an unworthy manner. I've always believed that if I disobey my conscience in anything I am grieving the Holy Spirit. The fact I've even waited this long terrifies me. I've been in a good deal of prayer over this, and have shared my concerns with my family (who have also been praying.) Neither side has had any insights.

Thus far, I do not perceive the wisdom which I asked God for.

Now, I regret my obedience to my parents. In over a month of this struggle, nothing has helped. I've never felt so distant from God. At the advice of others, I've been trying to focus on "positive" Bible verses, contemplate on His Love through His Son, and, of course, trying to get good sleep. I've tried contacting my church, but the pastor I trust has been too busy to hear me out.

Everyone in my family and my doc (a family friend) say its nothing to worry about. But it's still gnawing at me...

As a kid raised in the military, I have few friends and poor social networks at church. (I volunteer some, but nothing's ever really happened in the way of friends.) So, my family (parents, brother, grandmother, aunt) are all I have socially. The Bible is clear that I must choose Him over all others. But, I do not want to boast in my works and be guilty of what the Galatians did.

My questions for the community
1. Has anyone had a similar struggle? If so, any insight?
2. Where do you believe the line is between obedience and legalism?

Your prayers are appreciated!
 

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All guilt a christian feels is false guilt or mislabeled as guilt (it is actually compassion or empathy for others). God does not count anything you do against you (2 Corinthians 5:19).

If you stand to "lose your family" then you are being unloving to those who love you the most. God's love is inclusive not exclusive. God wants to include "all others" in your love for Him.

If God is silent then that means He is not telling you expose what you've done so you shouldn't think that not exposing it is "not choosing Him."

If you still have your job after 10 months why are you worried about what your application said? Do you feel insecure in your job otherwise?
 
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What do you mean by "white lies"? Are they the only reason you got the job? Who is being hurt by these "white lies" other than you? If it is causing you so much distress, what is stopping you from comimg clean? I'm sure you won't lose love and respect from your family...they just may think you are being self-righteous. God expects us to allow our conscience to be our guide, so why are those around you saying it's okay?
 
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You're going to have to be more specific than "white lies" here for anyone to give you meaningful advice, man.

It involved past medical history disclosure. I found out after the fact that something I hid could have prevented me from getting the job.
 
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I'm going to have to agree with your parents and emperormar. Legalism has plagued people for centuries but with the advent of information on demand, these falsities about the Word are coming unraveled at a very fast rate. People are waking up to the true love and calling of Christ as apposed to the legalistic thinking of, chasing sin around the block all day.

Christ has already paid the price for your sins. All he asks is that you love Him and love one another as yourself. If these "lies" could harm others, it's a problem. If they don't, then stop letting the enemy beat you down and make you sick. Have faith, peace and joy in the Lord. Not torment.
 
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If your lies harmed someone, that would be one thing, but if they did no harm, I would let them "lie", so to speak. Ecclesiastes tells us not to be righteous overmuch. Jesus said to beware pulling the tares when it would harm the wheat as well. Moreover, the Hebrew midwives lied to protect innocent life, and Rahab lied to protect the spies of her city's enemies. Both made it to the Hall of Faith, and Rahab was a progenitor of David and Jesus.

From what is written here, I don't see any good coming out of confessing. Lacking that, I would put it behind me and move on.
 
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It involved past medical history disclosure. I found out after the fact that something I hid could have prevented me from getting the job.
Is this medical issue ongoing or has it been cured? Would this PAST condition affect how safely or effectively you do your job right NOW?
 
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How are you performing on the job? Are you meeting the need you were hired for?

If you are performing your duties, responibilities and tasks of your job assignment then whatever you didnt disclose should not affect your career. If your present career is not being affected then where is the guilt coming from?

Look at it like this. If what you did not disclose did not prevent you from getting the job and you were in Christ then, then why would He hold you responible now? God is able to do all things and that is including conviction in the midst of. If He didnt do it then, why now?

This doesnt mean that God is not impressing upon you to right a wrong but in all things God also desires for us to count up the costs. As Paul states, pulling the tares mare effect the wheat as well. You have to count up the costs of the lose wheat if you pull this tare up.

If you arent hearing God then I think you need to turn it over to Him and leave it there. Your focus on it could be what is driving up your anxiety.

Another possibility is to see if you are able to make true what wasnt on your application. For example if you states you were knowledgeable with MS Access but really only have even opened up the software. You can enroll in a course. Then when the course is over make your confession but be able to show what you did to correct your wrong.

If you cant correct it and it doesnt hinder your job performance, it may best left covered.
 
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It involved past medical history disclosure. I found out after the fact that something I hid could have prevented me from getting the job.

It isnt always wise to disclose something that doesnt really have any bearing on who you are today.

If the medical condition doesnt alter the way you perform then, leave it undisclosed.

From past experience, I disclosed something that my recruiter ( US Army ) told me to leave it undisclosed. Well, I went in without him and as the instructor read the warning for false information, I immediately felt convicted and disclosed everything. After, I was denied entry that particular day and my recruiter chewed me up!

I had to appeal the decision which was a ridiculously lengthy process and later was accepted but in hindsight, it wasnt even worth all of the trouble. I should have left it undisclosed as the recruiter stated. It had no barings on who I was and what type of soldier I was going to be. The only thing it effected was me because now I was open to be judged by all of those who had privy to my medical records.

The regulation made it a big deal because there were no medical records present to support what I disclosed which delayed my entry. The Recruiter new it would have been a requirement and recommended that I not disclose the information so that I could leave within the timeframe I desired. I had no idea but he did.

Your parents gave you the best advice at the time because they were more knowledgable of the requirements. Your parents dont sound like the type of parents that would intentionally recommend you to do something that could later come back and jeopardize your integrity, safety or spiritual connection to God.
 
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All,

Thank you for the replies. I don't see the issue as hindering my job performance in the future. Perfectionism is probably the tendency here.

Does anyone have stress reactions like this? In the past when I was stressed, I'd have physical manifestations and just go hit the track. Never has it been a spiritual/emotional thing like this. I wish I could find a verse that comforted people with false guilt. The closest I've found is 1 John 3:20.

Does anyone have some verses for the battle?
 
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It involved past medical history disclosure. I found out after the fact that something I hid could have prevented me from getting the job.

Then it's likely that they did not report that condition to your insurance carrier if you have health benefits, nor to their liability insurance carriers and/or other insurers, nor seek informed legal advice about their options. In other words there is likely ongoing fraud here that could harm you or your employer in the future. Consider that when considering what the right thing to do here is.
 
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Forgive my hidden faults. (Psalm 19:12)

Remember not the sins of my youth and my rebellious ways. (Psalm 25:7) Save me from all my transgressions. (Psalm 39:8)

Hide your face from my sins and blot out all my iniquity.
(Psalm 51:9)

When we were overwhelmed by sins, you forgave our transgressions. (Psalm 65:3)

Then I acknowledged my sin to you and did not cover up my iniquity. I said, "I will confess my transgressions to the LORD" - and you forgave the guilt of my sin. (Psalm 32:5)

If you, O LORD, kept a record of sins, O Lord, who could stand? But with you there is forgiveness. (Psalm 130:3-4)

It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners. (Mark 2:17)

Though our sins be like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are as red as crimson, they shall be like wool. (Isaiah 1:18)

Cleanse me with hyssop, and I will be clean; wash me, and I will be whiter than snow. (Psalm 51:7)

You were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. (1 Corinthians 6:11)

We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all. (Isaiah 53:6)

I have swept away your offenses like a cloud, your sins like the morning mist. Return to me, for I have redeemed you.
(Isaiah 44:22)

I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more. (Isaiah 43:25)

Blessed is he whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered. (Psalm 32:1)
 
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Ask for forgiveness and move on. I think your admission and concern with the "white lies" is probably a good thing, because you conscience is tell you something. However, I don't think it's a good thing to keep scaring yourself either. Confession, perhaps?
 
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I used to have a problem with scrupulosity, but then I discovered grace. The root was fear -fear of rejection, in particular. And the antidote was the unconditional love of God. Dwell on Romans 8. Your salvation had nothing to do with you, everything to do with the completed work of Christ for you. Our job is to honor that work by RESTING in Him. The place of rest is the place of true fellowship, where we can draw on His infinite supply.

Hebrews tells us to abandon our dead works. They have no efficacy with regard to our salvation, and in fact only hinder us.

It is good for the heart to be established by grace. -heb 13.9
 
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I'm not sure about your employers rules, but I don't believe that we have to disclose medical history unless a medical issue could harm or be a danger to ourselves or others on the job. If there is no danger, then keeping our medical history private is not lying. It is our right.
 
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