Well my friend said ' baby Jesus please kill a nfl player' becuase he didnt like him. should i still talk to him?
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I'd set my sights on a better class of people for my friends.
Anyone worth having as a friend (a) wouldn't blaspheme the name of God and (b) wouldn't wish anyone dead.
Also, I can't imagine what I would have in common with anyone so dumb that they don't know that Jesus isn't a baby.
Anyone worth having as a friend (a) wouldn't blaspheme the name of God and (b) wouldn't wish anyone dead.
Also, I can't imagine what I would have in common with anyone so dumb that they don't know that Jesus isn't a baby.
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...or instead of taking the "I'm better than you, and obviously above this relationship" route, you could come down off your high-horse and try to help this person. Maybe instead of shirking off the friendship, you could try to invest more into it and allow some of your good nature to rub off on this person.
I don't know though. Our friend Mike is is a True Christian after all, and he would know best. Maybe what he suggests is the right thing to do after all. I'm sure his solution is exactly as Jesus would've wanted it.
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I laugh at the 'baby Jesus' part. It reminds me of Will Ferrell's dinner prayer scene in Talladega Nights. Are you telling me people actually SAY that?
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Yes, I'd dump him. It's unhealthy to have friends who are that stupid.
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I grew up going to Talladega every couple of weeks to the races there, and of course, to the big NASCAR races. My dad was good friends with a couple of the drivers (the Alisons and Red Farmer) so we never missed it.
When that movie came out, even though I can't stand Will Farrel, my wife and I went to see it.
The scene you're talking about was so blasphemous, that's the part where we got up and walked out.
That's the one that led to Will Farrel joining Adam Sandler on the "banned" list in our household.
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Jesus said that bad company corrupts good morals
Then shouldn't we be pleased that Jesus didn't let a little thing like bad company prevent him from accomplishing his mission?
"'Why do you call me good?' Jesus answered. 'No one is good-except God alone.'"
Then shouldn't we be pleased that Jesus didn't let a little thing like bad company prevent him from accomplishing his mission?
"'Why do you call me good?' Jesus answered. 'No one is good-except God alone.'"
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Would you like to discuss a little on the difference between abstaining from the appearance of evil and being all things to all people that some may be saved?
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No, for two reasons.
The first being that they are two different and unrelated things.
One is talking about abstaining from immorality.
The other is talking about Paul being sensitive to the cultural traditions of his Jewish audience.
The second is that you don't believe the Bible, anyway, so it would be a waste of time.
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The second is that you don't believe the Bible, anyway, so it would be a waste of time.
"How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?" Romans 10:14
"How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them?" Romans 10:14
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And if we were talking about preaching the Gospel to those who haven't heard it, you might have a point, but we're not.
There's a world of difference between withholding the Gospel from someone who has not heard it, yet is seeking for it, and playing rhetorical games with someone who only wants to make light of the Gospel.
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And if we were talking about preaching the Gospel to those who haven't heard it, you might have a point, but we're not.
Well here's my reasoning and let me know if you see anything wrong with it.
We're talking about a person who spoke blasphemy, and possibly murderously as well. Perhaps you believe the proper action is to totally reject this person.
I see it a bit differently. For me, a good tree produces good fruit. That someone could say such a thing tells me that either they have not been reborn.
Let's discuss the role of friends. Do you believe a friend is a yes-man who agrees with everything? Where I come from, a friend does not hesitate to bring up issues... especially where it concerns someone's eternal fate. A friend wants what is best for that person.
And what is best for all people is to be reborn by the grace of God, to be forgiven of sin, to be lead by the Spirit, to be renewed of mind, and to produce fruit in keeping with repentance.
I don't know your heart, but it looks to me like you are advising someone to abandon his friend for his own sake. Because "bad company corrupts good morals". And here is where I disagree.
Jesus said that you ARE the light of the world. He said you are salt of the earth. Who is supposed to be influencing who?
To me, this friend or former friend is in dire need of help. Prayer, compassion, admonishment. If there is a time to no longer talk, this is not it. Because this is still the day of salvation.
Well here's my reasoning and let me know if you see anything wrong with it.
We're talking about a person who spoke blasphemy, and possibly murderously as well. Perhaps you believe the proper action is to totally reject this person.
I see it a bit differently. For me, a good tree produces good fruit. That someone could say such a thing tells me that either they have not been reborn.
Let's discuss the role of friends. Do you believe a friend is a yes-man who agrees with everything? Where I come from, a friend does not hesitate to bring up issues... especially where it concerns someone's eternal fate. A friend wants what is best for that person.
And what is best for all people is to be reborn by the grace of God, to be forgiven of sin, to be lead by the Spirit, to be renewed of mind, and to produce fruit in keeping with repentance.
I don't know your heart, but it looks to me like you are advising someone to abandon his friend for his own sake. Because "bad company corrupts good morals". And here is where I disagree.
Jesus said that you ARE the light of the world. He said you are salt of the earth. Who is supposed to be influencing who?
To me, this friend or former friend is in dire need of help. Prayer, compassion, admonishment. If there is a time to no longer talk, this is not it. Because this is still the day of salvation.
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As someone I should choose for a friend? Yes.
I agree. However, it is not my responsibility to become friends with such a crass and childish person just to fix them.
Fine. Then preach the Gospel to them. That doesn't mean that you have to accept them as a friend.
Disagree all you like. I don't really care.
And neither of Jesus' statements have anything to do with taking people of such low character on as a friend.
Fine. Then help them. I still would not have them as a friend.
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