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Advice? I'm quite unhappy...

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My wife and I got married about a year and a half ago and our marriage hasn't been that bad. We got along pretty good but I don't feel connected to her anymore. I consider myself to be a pretty sound individual but I find myself CONSTANTLY thinking that I may not be with the woman that I'm supposed to be with. She and I both prayed before we got married that if it wasn't supposed to be that God might lead us away from it. We didn't necessarily feel led to part ways, so we got married. My marriage is in a whole lot better shape than others' but I do NOT feel connected to her anymore. At least not strongly enough to be wed...

I feel pretty bad saying that too but it's been weighing on me pretty bad lately. I've been consistently down for the past three-four months. We've tried talking about it but I can never manage to say that I'm unhappy with my marriage that I"m only unhappy with our financial state or state of living, etc. (which is NOT a lie).

Any advice? I'll keep praying about it because I haven't been praying as well as I could be lately. Thanks for listening.
 

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Not much at all. I'd like to get involved with a church and any activities/volunteer work offered within and so would she but we can't agree on a church! I've found two churches that I really like but she doesn't like either of them because she doesn't like the music. She says that she learns more from the music than from the message. That's all well and good, I s'pose....(I'm going to try to ignore the fact that before we got married, she repeatedly told people that she would follow her husband to any church he led her to...yep, I'm going to ignore that)

I know that's probably a big problem. I think it would help a lot if we did more recreational things together but it's just that WE don't really ever feel like it.
 
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I'm sorry to hear about your situation. I know it must be frustrating to you to sit around and wonder if you've made the right decision by being married to this particular person.

You mentioned that you're unhappy with your financial situation, state of living, etc. The number one cause of divorce is financial problems. If your financial situation was different, would you feel more secure in your marriage?

Don't stop looking for a church you can both agree on. Pray that God will lead you where He wants you and where you can minister best and bring Him the most glory. That's what's it's all about anyway. God is supposed to lead us to a church, not our spouse (and I'm not knocking you at all...I do think it's wonderful that you're trying to be a leader in this area and are taking the initiative to try to find a church. That's a great thing for a husband to do. Just make sure that as you're trying to lead your wife, you're being led by God.)...I just mean that I really believe that God can take care of that and help you find a church where you can both serve and be ministered to.

What are some things you love about your wife? What would make you feel more of a connection with her?
 
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Strong words of advice...thank you so much.

If our financial situation were better, I know it would make our state of living better (we're currently living with her parents...so a whole lot better) but I can't see that it would make the state of our marriage better. My wife is kind and she's definitely funny and she cares for me deeply, I know that. Unfortunately my "other" list is a whole lot longer. I prayed last night for God's hand in our marriage as well as in my life. I know that God will answer our prayer but this is just a discouraging time...

I agree with what you said about the church. I want to be the leader of a strong Christian family more than anything but you're right in the fact that I have to make sure I'm following God and not my own idealism.

That's another thing...I want to have a child more than anything. That's very important for me but it's not for her. She's just kind of "iffy" about it...meaning she could go either way. She feels no strong desire to have a child. You know what, though, I knew that before we got married but for some reason...I decided not to think about it too hard. I want my wife to lead the life that SHE'S always dreamed of as well and I don't think a child is part of that dream.

I was VERY immature my first year of marriage and I'm not doing so hot yet in terms of turning that around but I am trying and I don't see us heading in the same direction. I don't mean she's immature (at least not as much as me) because she is more mature than me.....I just want to know for sure...that's all.

Thank you so much.
 
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There's already been some good advice here.

The best advice I can offer is: don't give divorce even a fleeting thought. Unfortunately, marriage isn't always fun, sometimes its a lot of work, and this sounds like one of those times. The most important thing is that you remember the vows you made to one another, and stick to them, don't worry about the past and what you should have done, look to the future and what you can do to make things better.

Continue looking for a church that you both like, perhaps you can find a church with multiple services, some traditional, some contemporary (my church offers different services like these). Also keep in mind that going to church isn't just about "getting" (in fact, that should be a nice benefit) church is about giving, its giving God the thanks and praise he deserves. You both might need to concentrate more on this when looking for a church home, be more concerned with what you can give to the church than with what you can get out of it (it took me a long time to learn this).

Also, don't have a baby until things are more secure. While your wife might not seem ecstatic about having a baby, she might change her mind when you have had some more time together, and your marriage has grown. (Keep in mind you will both need to work through this hard time to get your marriage to grow.) :)

I will keep you both in my prayers :prayer:
 
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I think it might be best to not dwell on those things that make you wonder if she's the one for you. You know what? You married her, and now she's the one for you. No matter what. Wondering what else is out there might leave you more open to commit adultery (I'm not saying you will, I'm just saying that's how it starts). "Love is not a feeling; it is a commitment to act in the best interest of another."--Nancy Leigh Demoss.

Don't use your feelings as your guide...feelings are too flimsy and feeble.

Sometimes when we get frustrated and discouraged, it's easy to notice all the "less than stellar" moments of our partner. Make it a point to notice anything nice she does for you on a daily basis. Whether it's picking your dirty underwear off the floor, or making you laugh, or finding the Tylenol for you when you have a headache....dwell on those things.

The baby thing is a big deal and I can see how that would upset someone who WANTS to have a baby. BUT you know that you're not in a position to provide for a baby right now, right? And you're really young (I'm assuming your wife is too) and you have plenty of good "baby-making" years ahead of you. So let that go for now. Maybe as she gets older, that maternal urge will kick in. Maybe it won't. Don't borrow worries from tomorrow. I didn't want a baby when I was 23 either. Now I'm coming up on 26 and I'm baby crazy. So things can happen! :) But at least you knew where she stood going into this. Since you knew that, I don't think she's really wronged you in that area. She was honest about it.
 
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My wife and I used to argue all the time about half way into our first year of marriage. We got pregnant on our honeymoon and had the baby very quickly. She was staying at home recovering and taking care of our child who had colic, so when I got home she would immediatly pass him off to me because she was exhausted from him crying all day. I took on some more work because the job she was working at fired her right before her pregnancy leave would have been in effect because of her being late to work and incurring too many points for tardiness and or absence. We began struggling financially and the arguements turned into fights. We didn't go to church regularly because I didn't really like the one we were going to, and she didn't like the one I wanted to go to. The tide turned when she started her new job and I went back to school, now I was trying to take care of the baby and do all of the housework, which by the way I applaud any woman who can do this task and I give a standing ovation to the ones who have to do it with more than one child. Well she would come home and feel like all I did was play around all day because I wasn't done with the housework, so the fights kept getting worse. I started to think Man my life was so much easier when I was single and didn't have a baby, these thoughts led to more thoughts which started to lead to the possibility of divorce. Only a fleeting thought because I still loved my wife and I know I couldn't live without seeing my son every day. The best thing that ever happened to us was to start going to the church we are now attending. We bought a devotional for couples and have been doing it together every night. I now feel like our love has grown so deep and that our marriage is unshakable. We still have some struggles, but through the power of prayer our $6,000 worth of Doctor bills from where she was fired from her job and our insurance took back a lot of the bills they had already paid, the bills have been taken care of and now the strangle hold from the financial worries is gone. When we started going to church regularly and reading the Bible together, I took a long hard look at myself, and It was revealed to me that I wasn't being the Husband that God wanted me to be to my wife. I thought our problems were all her fault, because I never complained about anything she did. I started getting mad at her because she was mad at me and I blamed her for everything which was causing me to fall out of love with her. I now see that it was my fault for not being the man that she needed me to be. She has shown such a great love for me by taking on almost all of our financial responsibilities so that I could finish school and instead I focused on the fact that she was mad because when she would get home she would complain because I didn't clean. It was my fault for being lazy, it should have been the least I could do to take some of the strain from her. I know that my heart was beginning to grow cold towards her and at times I didn't even want to sleep next to her and would go out on the couch to watch T.V. I was denying her the emotional support and love that is my responsibility to give to her. Fellowshipping with other christians and getting into God's word daily together is the answer to any problem. Some churches go on Marriage retreats where you two can rekindle the fire. Our Sunday school class just finished up a study on divorce proofing your marriage. You just need to get into God's word every day, together if possible and you will realize again why you married your wife and why God sent her to you.
 
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1. Don't even THINK about a baby right now - dude, you're 23, so broke you live with her parents, etc. That should be the LAST thing on your mind.

2. Why do you live with her folks? Are you both working? Do you have degrees, or are you in school? What are your prospects?

3. How long did you date? How long were you engaged? Same religion?
 
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So many great things said here and I appreciate them all!!!!

First off, Matthew, I SO don't want to have a baby right now, you can trust in that. I know that I definitely want to within the next three-to five years, though. She's older than me by four years and she said that once she hits 30, she DOES NOT want to have kids. So that's part of my reason for worrying about that. If I hang on to my 3-5 vision, then she's not going to want one but I want at least two kids. Anyhoo...that's just something that requires talking.

Stonehands, a devotional is a wonderful idea. (I used to work at LifeWay so I'm not sure why I hadn't' thought of that yet) :) I'll be looking out for a marriage retreat as well. I think it would certainly help to have a weekend away together...no business. Thank you for your support and words of encouragement. Can I ask how your marriage is progressing? Well, I hope...

Jenptcfan,
"You know what? You married her, and now she's the one for you. "
That's so very true and I realize that more than anything. More than anything, I want her to be as happy as she can be and I want to be in a happy place as well. I know this situation will be resolved. It's going to take a lot of prayer, fellowship, and communication to get me through this series of thoughts I seem to be dwelling on...you've provided some wonderful words for me to think about and I thank you for them.

Finally,
JillLars, I don't give divorce a fleeting thought. Even if it does pop in my head then I dismiss it rather quickly. I just feel as though I'm stuck in a rut. When I made this forum post, it seemed as though that rut would never end. Although everyone has given me so many things to think about and I have so much more hope for the situation and I can't thank you all enough! As far as what you were talking about with church, I can honestly say that I have NEVER thought of it like that. I like to hear the words of my pastor because I know him and I know he's a great man. I know now, however, that this is not the only reason I should go to church. I knew church was a fellowship, I knew that, but I did not think about what I should be giving TO the church. Again, this has opened a whole new area of thought and prayer....thank you. Don't worry...I'm not rushing into have a child....I just like to keep my eyes on the future as well as the present.

Thank you all so much for your blessings, prayers, and words of encouragement. God bless you all and I'll be thinking about EVERYTHING that has been said here thus far. Thank you.
 
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Living with another family can cause major problems in a marriage. My sister, her hubby, and their son moved in 3 1/2 years ago. And now they have another son. The living situation causes friction in the marriage. Our situation has affected her marriage and my marriage. She is finally moving out this weekend. I can already see that both marriages will be in a better place. You can only help and be helped for so long. I finally told them it was time to go. We were not helping them anymore by letting them stay. You have less privacy which is needed in a marriage. As for the baby situation; you need to have a place of your own first. Don't worry about her not wanting a baby in this point in your life; even if you are thinking 3 + years from now. My hubby and I were in total disagreement about children before we got married. I did'nt want to have any children and he wanted to have 4 children. He grew up in a big family. After I had my 1st child, I could'nt wait to have the next. I felt so blessed to have a child. Not only did I have the 2nd; but we do have 4. I would'nt trade this for anything in the world. She may want children when the timing is right. It is very important that you two spend quality time together. Go out on dates. Search for a church that you both agree on. Once the financial situation is better; you'll be amazed of the changes. Have you seeked a credit couseling service if debt is the problem. If work is a problem; try a temporary agency or if one of you is without a job take advantage of getting assistance for an education. God Bless
 
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stonehands said:
My wife and I used to argue all the time about half way into our first year of marriage. We got pregnant on our honeymoon and had the baby very quickly. She was staying at home recovering and taking care of our child who had colic, so when I got home she would immediatly pass him off to me because she was exhausted from him crying all day. I took on some more work because the job she was working at fired her right before her pregnancy leave would have been in effect because of her being late to work and incurring too many points for tardiness and or absence. We began struggling financially and the arguements turned into fights. We didn't go to church regularly because I didn't really like the one we were going to, and she didn't like the one I wanted to go to. The tide turned when she started her new job and I went back to school, now I was trying to take care of the baby and do all of the housework, which by the way I applaud any woman who can do this task and I give a standing ovation to the ones who have to do it with more than one child. Well she would come home and feel like all I did was play around all day because I wasn't done with the housework, so the fights kept getting worse. I started to think Man my life was so much easier when I was single and didn't have a baby, these thoughts led to more thoughts which started to lead to the possibility of divorce. Only a fleeting thought because I still loved my wife and I know I couldn't live without seeing my son every day. The best thing that ever happened to us was to start going to the church we are now attending. We bought a devotional for couples and have been doing it together every night. I now feel like our love has grown so deep and that our marriage is unshakable. We still have some struggles, but through the power of prayer our $6,000 worth of Doctor bills from where she was fired from her job and our insurance took back a lot of the bills they had already paid, the bills have been taken care of and now the strangle hold from the financial worries is gone. When we started going to church regularly and reading the Bible together, I took a long hard look at myself, and It was revealed to me that I wasn't being the Husband that God wanted me to be to my wife. I thought our problems were all her fault, because I never complained about anything she did. I started getting mad at her because she was mad at me and I blamed her for everything which was causing me to fall out of love with her. I now see that it was my fault for not being the man that she needed me to be. She has shown such a great love for me by taking on almost all of our financial responsibilities so that I could finish school and instead I focused on the fact that she was mad because when she would get home she would complain because I didn't clean. It was my fault for being lazy, it should have been the least I could do to take some of the strain from her. I know that my heart was beginning to grow cold towards her and at times I didn't even want to sleep next to her and would go out on the couch to watch T.V. I was denying her the emotional support and love that is my responsibility to give to her. Fellowshipping with other christians and getting into God's word daily together is the answer to any problem. Some churches go on Marriage retreats where you two can rekindle the fire. Our Sunday school class just finished up a study on divorce proofing your marriage. You just need to get into God's word every day, together if possible and you will realize again why you married your wife and why God sent her to you.
Bravo, I think it's so awsome when men humble themselves, take some responsibility and initiate change. That's awsome!
 
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I can understand the worrying about the baby thing. I'm worried a little becuase we plan out trying in line with hubby's school so that it's during his breaks when we would have it. We pray about it also, and we have one child already, planned when we'd try for the next one for a year, and the month before it came to that time the lord told me it wasn't his will yet. And even though we tried anyways, I didn't get pregnant. That scares me a little because I'll be 26 before next one, and I want 4 children myself- I don't know how women can wait till they're 30, I'm way to concerned about my biological clock.

I have a 2 year old, he's such a blessing and at first actually helped our marriage because it filled a void and I wasn't so down on my hubby meeting my needs. But lately it's been putting all kinds of stress on our relationship, because he's having temper tantrums all the time, constantly getting into stuff- and although we both love him dearly- we get tired of it, can't wait unti he goes to bed, and get frustrated and angry with him at times. And sometimes while it's happening I get so stressed and snap at my hubby, telling him to take care of his needs so I don't have to deal with it. And sometimes this leads to arguments. Then of course there is the difference in opinions regarding discipline methods, with leads to great amounts of anger because we both think we are smart about it, and both want our opinions to be respected, instead we are quick to tell the other that their way is wrong. And plus I work full time and my hubby goes to school full time, so he's always stressed about school because wants to make good grades, and a lot of time he goes on and on and on about how he doesn't have time to do this or that (which only would take about 10 minutes) because he has this test and that test and so forth. All these things add strain, and there are times when you just get sick of it, tired of making effort to make the darn marriage work especially when all it is is just a commitment, without closeness and love. And there are times when we both want to throw in the towel, and have come very close to it.

Wanted to point out that having a child truly is a full time responsibility, and at this point it would probably tear the two of you apart because when there is a wailing baby that you cannot consol, and when both are trying to pass the responsibility to the other because of the stress, having to devote all that time and energy to that little one whether you feel like it or not......

Anyways, good luck. It would be good for you to take a good look at yourself, and practice being considerate of your wife above yourself- because bitterness is a one way ticket to divorce. It's the only way I can keep from divorcing my hubby- is not to think of all the ways he's failing me, and all the ways he's not taking my feelings into consideration- which is a very selfish thing to do.... I, I, I , I, I and I. We both went into this marriage thinking that we'd get something out of it, get our needs met- and sometimes squable just about that "your not meeting my needs" "NO, your not meeting my needs, I did this and this and this, and you aren't doing this and this and this" Guess I'll go marry someone else that makes me their world cause you are doing it. Sigh, marriage is just another responsibility, something that requires work, especially if both people aren't holding up their ends of the bargain or aren't making efforts. I have personally growing weary myself because I have been entertaining such negative thought as you have. But it does not lead down a good path. Sigh- got to endure, builds strength and character. The chapter that helps me the most personally is Umm, I think it's 1 corinthians chapter 7 where it says that no matter what situation you are in- seek to be content. Learning to be content is the key. Try not to entertain thoughts of discontentment, but as others on here have already said- focus on the positive, it is so easy to focus on the negative- purposely focus on her positives, praise her strengths, keep your mouth shut and even go to god about her weaknesses, bless her, give her the love that she may not deserve. Shoot, none of us deserve that love, but we are married to be a blessing, not to be blessed, that's agape love, God's way of loving someone- in turn you two will grow closer. It'll work, just purpose in your heart to do your part, and leave your partner's part up to God- because you can't change her anyways. And lets say you did divorce to find ms. right, the chances or odds are like 1,000 to one the you would meet that perfect person you'd connect well with, just another person to learn how to love and get along with with a different set of strengths and weaknesses. Might as well stay with the first person you married.
 
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Hisbloodformysins,

It seems as though you've been able to understand some of the frustrating feelings I've been having...

Don't worry, I am not wanting a kid right NOW because I KNOW it would tear us apart at this point in our marriage. Again, I'm just thinking about the future. Thank you for your kind words and I will definitely heed some of your advice as well. It's just so amazing how supportive people have been thus far with my problem. I've come across so many wonderful things to think about and pray about and start doing...

I'll continue to try to find and focus on the positive things about my wife and my marriage. I can already see this is going to help...in fact, I've started to focus more on the positive things just over the past day. I've had to force myself to but eventually, it may not seem like such a "task."
 
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thatonedude said:
Strong words of advice...thank you so much.

If our financial situation were better, I know it would make our state of living better (we're currently living with her parents...so a whole lot better) but I can't see that it would make the state of our marriage better. My wife is kind and she's definitely funny and she cares for me deeply, I know that. Unfortunately my "other" list is a whole lot longer. I prayed last night for God's hand in our marriage as well as in my life. I know that God will answer our prayer but this is just a discouraging time...

I agree with what you said about the church. I want to be the leader of a strong Christian family more than anything but you're right in the fact that I have to make sure I'm following God and not my own idealism.

That's another thing...I want to have a child more than anything. That's very important for me but it's not for her. She's just kind of "iffy" about it...meaning she could go either way. She feels no strong desire to have a child. You know what, though, I knew that before we got married but for some reason...I decided not to think about it too hard. I want my wife to lead the life that SHE'S always dreamed of as well and I don't think a child is part of that dream.

I was VERY immature my first year of marriage and I'm not doing so hot yet in terms of turning that around but I am trying and I don't see us heading in the same direction. I don't mean she's immature (at least not as much as me) because she is more mature than me.....I just want to know for sure...that's all.

Thank you so much.
When we got married, we had no money, and no job, or anything and had to live with my MIL. So I know what that is like. It's no fun, but if there are problems in the marriage, they are not necessarily made better if there is more money. We have been married for 3 years, and we have seen hard financial times and also times where we had more money. I think in the harder times, it makes you grow closer together if you let it. It develops your character and you learn to depend on God. It can also destroy your marriage too, because it is stressful and hard.

About the children issue, I would just wait until your finances are sorted out a bit more. She might change her mind later. However, you did go into marriage knowing she doesn't really want children, so you will just have to love her for who she is, and hope she changes her mind later.
 
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Thatonedude -

You still haven't clued us into your situation. You're 23, she's 27, and you're living with her folks? Time to move out! Two people, working minimum wage jobs for 30 hours a week, will make $1260 a month. That's enough to afford a (very cheap!) one-bedroom apartment, eat (rice and beans, but still...), minimum car insurance, keep the lights on, etc.

Do either of you work? School? What does the future look like?
 
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My suggestion is this : think of how good and close buddies/friends you and your wife were at the early times of your relationship...I think your wife should always remain that close friend on top of all...I admit that many things change in a married life but I do believe that if you remain the good friends you were, you both will be more relaxed, close like you were before...I hope that will help you too!
 
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