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Happy would it still be necessary for visitors to the forum?I say completely do away with the dicussion and debate forum. Delete it. We no longer need it. we can talk amongst ourselves without having a debate area. all of us here agree and go along with the fundamental 27/28 doctrines of the sda church. so there is no need for the debate forum anymore. that was only started because of the progs.
Jon,You seek to remove any place where I and others can speak, as I have been told that I am not welcome speaking here (inside this forum). I just felt that I should represent myself in the discussion.
JM
i wouldnt think so.Happy would it still be necessary for visitors to the forum?
You seek to remove any place where I and others can speak, as I have been told that I am not welcome speaking here (inside this forum). I just felt that I should represent myself in the discussion.
JM
On a point of correction. Jon was not referring to the non-debate area. He was referring to the comments made about the Debate area. Second, CF never established a Traditional Adventist forum so there was never any CF attempt to define a traditional Adventist. Ask those who were involved in the efforts to get this forum started.Jon, being reported for debating in a non-debate area was in no way a message of "you are not welcome here". That just simply isn't true. You ARE welcome here.
Over the years, the hardest part about all this has been that what CF has labelled as "Traditional Adventists" are those that uphold the official teachings of the Seventh-day Adventist church.
I'm all for dumping the D&D area too and also the 'trad' area since it is no longer needed. It was only formed in the first place to give us a safe haven away from the harassment of the offenders, so yes, dump the trad area too.
RED--if we do get to dump the trad area--could you place PaleHorse's stickies into the main forum before that would happen? Thanks.
This forum now is what it should have always been, the representative of the Seventh-day Adventist Church.
The "intolerant views" as they call them are the official doctrine of our church!
So they got what they wanted....why are we still having to defend our church now exactly?
Not always. They are your views on the official doctrines of the SDA church. They aren't the views of the SDA church as a whole, as seen by it's membership. They are the views of a fraction of the SDA church.
This is the central issue.
Jon Miller
There are some 'troublemakers' in both camps. Additionally, I would be fine with restricting nonAdventists to a debate forum, you seem to favor restricting debate between nonAdventists and Adventists to general theology.
JonMiller said:But people like Nighteternal, Sentripente, and Stormy One, should all have a right to post here. Just as they have a right to vote for church office.
JonMiller said:Their voices are a minority here, isn't that what you want?
Jon Miller said:(I think the move of progressive out of the seventhday adventist forums was a mistake, notice that I didn't follow)
I was a minority in the former progressive forum.
Note that for many people, things were so unpleasant that they were forced to leave. How many of the progressive main posters do you see in the D&D forum?
JM
As I pointed out in another post, the 'progressives' here were defined to be those who weren't welcome in the traditional group here. They had no other self identity.
JM
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