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Add your Reason as to why The European Union is the One World GOVERNMENT

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JaimeMan

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HMMM I'll give 2 fun ones:


Out of over 1100 documents listed on the EU's 1998 General Report, the one creating the EU's new Office of High Representative, and giving it its foreign policy mandate, is also numbered 666. And, wouldn't you know it? That mandate includes the Middle East and Israel.

And the Woman Riding on the Bull in front of the Office

DO you have any?
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Because fundamentalists won't be happy until it is destroyed so that they can move on to the next available organization/government to fit their criteria!

YAY!

-Justin

p.s. I'm no fan of the EU, don't get me wrong, I just can't help but laugh about this stuff since it's been repeated again and again and again since the very beginning of the Church.
 
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OrthodoxServant86 said:
p.s. I'm no fan of the EU, don't get me wrong, I just can't help but laugh about this stuff since it's been repeated again and again and again since the very beginning of the Church.
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JaimeMan said:
It's Biblical....Roman Empire BABY!!!!!
The Roman Empire? Yes. The EU somehow the equivalent of a "revived" Roman Empire in some shape or fashion? No, not biblical...just man's interpretation. :)

In Christ,

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Just The Facts said:
Hi


Ahhhh could you please show me where it says there is one world government?
I believe there is an entire book of the Bible devoted to that...ahhh lemme see....
Reeeveeellaationnn ooooo yupp...

Juest check there and I think you can find it in with the Anti-christ ruling over the 10 nations too. (Also see the entire Book of Daniel)^_^
 
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JaimeMan said:
No way.....It's the coalition of Nations that makes the empire.....
But how does a "coalition of Nations" make a Roman Empire? It's like saying a coalition of European Nations makes a revived Napoleonic Empire, or a coalition of Asian nations makes a revived Mongolian Empire. Such ideas just don't make any sense.

If the nations that comprise the EU suddenly decided to give up their national identities, and if they desolved their borders and created a republic ruled by a caesar and a senate, and if they decided to be governed by pre-Justinian Roman law, then and only then could you make a case for a "revived" Rome.

There's nothing at all about the EU that would constitute a 1600 year old empire. Nothing at all. The laws are different. The governing body is different. The cultures are different. The territorial boundaries are different. Everything about the EU is different from the old Republic of Rome.

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Hi Jamie

Well I am kinda familiar with Revelation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Verses please..............Just one will do.

There is nothing in Daniel about a one world government

In fact Daniel 11: shows there is no one world Government.

First the AC attacks the Muslims

11:40: And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

There he is attacking the middle East..................................

King of the North ........King of the South ....doesn't sound like just one Government to Me.

Next is the Kings of the East

11:44: But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.

Wow...................... a one world government and Kings are everywhere.

Like I said scripture please..........................not Doctrines of men..........................
 
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Hi Jamie


Well ...................I understand there will not be a one world government but many others do not ..............I thought you were one of them..........................you are not.

I am glad to see that you understand that the AC NEVER controls every Nation ...............only people from every Nation worship him...................
 
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JaimeMan said:
HMMM I'll give 2 fun ones:


Out of over 1100 documents listed on the EU's 1998 General Report, the one creating the EU's new Office of High Representative, and giving it its foreign policy mandate, is also numbered 666. And, wouldn't you know it? That mandate includes the Middle East and Israel.

And the Woman Riding on the Bull in front of the Office

DO you have any?
:wave: :) ;)
Actual reference in the document is:

General Report 1998 - Chapter V: Role of the Union in the world
Section 1: Common foreign and security policy (3/24) 666. In December the Vienna European Council expressed the opinion that the Secretary-General of the Council and High Representative for the CFSP should be appointed as soon as possible and be a personality with a strong political profile. It invited the Council to prepare common strategies on Russia, Ukraine, the Mediterranean region and the western Balkans, on the understanding that the first would be on Russia. Welcoming the new impetus given to the debate on a common European policy on security and defence, the European Council also noted that the CFSP should be backed by credible operational capabilities (1).

Israel not specifically mentioned nor Middle East. It says Mediterranean. The page # is 666 not a document #666.

In other words the OP is nonsense.
 
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Tenacious-D said:
Israel not specifically mentioned nor Middle East. It says Mediterranean. The page # is 666 not a document #666.

In other words the OP is nonsense.
Interesting. I heard another rumor that seat #666 in the EU was vacant. Of course, there weren't 666 members of the EU at the time, so it couldn't be true.

I wonder how these rumors get started. My favorite is the one about "Alexander Tyler" and his book "The Fall of the Athenian Republic".
 
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The thing about the EU.......its still in its infancy, still trying to figure out exactly how its all going to work. It has however had success in one all important area: economics, which is what really makes the world run-the real power of the world is in the money. What we're seeing now is this success being noticed around the world and making other nations think 'this model of nation-intergrating the Europeans have is a pretty good idea'. So now you have a model of combining groups of nations in a region under one greater banner, in many ways like how the United States combines 50 smaller states under one flag. The trick to it all is: how much soveriegnty do the individual members of an EU-type government retain? The EU still hasn't figured that out either, there are those for all out control of the member states through the EU, and others who are for the emphasis being on member states retaining the bulk of their soveriegnty. Sound familiar? America went through that in the 19th century, and it was a big factor in causing the Civil War. Personally I think that in the long run the only way it will truly work for them is for the EU government to have the same power over its member states as the US government has over its states. Makes sense, considering the prosperity that America has enjoyed since the Civil War.

Another interesting aspect of the EU is with the UN and its current quest for reform. They can take a quick look at the EU, with a pretty good model for getting greater cooperation out of a group of nations that have been at odds with each other for centuries, and think that it might be worth a try. Seems to me a pretty good cure for what ails the UN. So, while the EU might not become a world government itself, it may be the seed for making a world government a realistic possibility. Too early to tell though, I wouldn't rush to any judgements about the EU but I will say.....as little as 5-6 years ago, people were laughing and scoffing at anyone who predicted the EU would get involved in affairs outside of Europe and would become more than just an economic alliance. Even a casual glance at the EU today shows they are doing just that. Who is to say just how powerful the EU will become, and just how it might choose to wield that power? Considering Europes bloody history, I'm a tad skeptical of it all until proven otherwise.
 
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SoupySayles said:
So now you have a model of combining groups of nations in a region under one greater banner, in many ways like how the United States combines 50 smaller states under one flag. The trick to it all is: how much soveriegnty do the individual members of an EU-type government retain? The EU still hasn't figured that out either, there are those for all out control of the member states through the EU, and others who are for the emphasis being on member states retaining the bulk of their soveriegnty. Sound familiar? America went through that in the 19th century, and it was a big factor in causing the Civil War.
I think the EU will have a much harder time opting for all out control. The American States certainly had their own independence tendancies regardless whether the central authority was located in England or Washington, but when it comes to Europe we're talking about nations with a much longer and storied past - some of the oldest nations in the history of the Western World. I could see bit players like Luxembourg wanting all out control for the EU, and for good reason, but I couldn't imagine the ancient powers of Europe (i.e. England, France, or Spain) even contemplating giving up any of their soveriegnty.

But that's just my opinion. It sounds like you have a much deeper grasp of the issues on this matter than I do.

In Christ,

Acts6:5
 
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